DSR requires very little raw healing.

[IllyaPrisma]

"Go play Ultimate" - After several clears of DSR, I can't help but notice that very little throughput healing is required for this encounter. I originally ran SCH with a WHM co-healer. After our first clear and a short discussion, my WHM co-healer decided to go SGE and we have legitimately swapped to two shield healers now. DSR is majority mitigation checks. Repeated mitigation checks. We found that stacking Kerachole and Sacred Soil trivializes these checks, and there is enough burst healing between SCH and SGE to handle Ahk Morn 5 & 6, as well as Gigaflare mitigation. Wroth Flames in Dragons, and Ahk Morn in DKT were the only instances that felt like legitimate healing checks, which Deployment Tactics and Pneuma entirely handled. Krasis allowed for some extra beefy deploys. Case in point, we had an abundance of mitigation, which felt much more valuable than actual healing throughput. I can count on 2 fingers the number of times I was forced into using multiple healing GCDs in a row throughout the entire instance.

[HyoMinPark]

Yes, this was a complaint when DSR came out and people started clearing. And just more proof that the developers have no idea how to make healing fun, interesting, engaging, or challenging in any way.

I retired from raiding a couple months ago due to life circumstances, but even while progging it for a few short weeks (got to Rewind), I was not impressed with the lack of healing actually needed. Not that I didn’t entirely expect it, because being disappoint—especially as a healer—has been a trend in the past. After all, this was the same team that told WHMs in Stormblood that the Lily System was great and they should just wait for the expansion/Savage/Ultimate to drop to see how amazing it was.

[glamazon]

Anytime someone say wait to see how exciting something will be instead of making it exciting now means it will never be exciting

[Raikai]

This actually saddens me because of the realization that healers have nowhere else to go, with healing, going forward to 7.0 unless they get reworked.

I can only speak for EX and Savages, but seeing many reports like this, if the design remains as it is, what ever the healers are going to get? Charges of stuff? Reduced recast times? MORE heals? I might be a horrible AST but I literally removed Synastry out of my bars and it had zero impact on my performance.

They literally hit a wall, even harder than MNK or SMN. I honestly can't picture YP looking at the computer, proudly thinking "Yeah, healers need another GCD AoE heal for a level 100 action."

[Supersnow845]

This actually saddens me because of the realization that healers have nowhere else to go, with healing, going forward to 7.0 unless they get reworked.

I can only speak for EX and Savages, but seeing many reports like this, if the design remains as it is, what ever the healers are going to get? Charges of stuff? Reduced recast times? MORE heals? I might be a horrible AST but I literally removed Synastry out of my bars and it had zero impact on my performance.

They literally hit a wall, even harder than MNK or SMN. I honestly can't picture YP looking at the computer, proudly thinking "Yeah, healers need another GCD AoE heal for a level 100 action."

The scary thing is that’s exactly what we said in ShB, when we got actions like neutral sect everyone was like “okay nah they can’t give us any more heals” and instead yoshi p dumps macrocosmos on us along with pneuma and lilybell

Unfortunately they can and will just keep adding pointless heals till it filters out the people who actually complain about healers till we get to a population of sylphies that don’t know any better

[Nizzi]

This actually saddens me because of the realization that healers have nowhere else to go, with healing, going forward to 7.0 unless they get reworked.

I can only speak for EX and Savages, but seeing many reports like this, if the design remains as it is, what ever the healers are going to get? Charges of stuff? Reduced recast times? MORE heals? I might be a horrible AST but I literally removed Synastry out of my bars and it had zero impact on my performance.

They literally hit a wall, even harder than MNK or SMN. I honestly can't picture YP looking at the computer, proudly thinking "Yeah, healers need another GCD AoE heal for a level 100 action."

Oh yes, they can and absolutely will get MORE heals and charges. For example, for SCH -
Level 92 - Broil IV, Biolysis II
Level 95 - Enhanced Indomitibility - adds a second charge to Indom
Level 96 - Quickened Aetherflow - Aetherflow's CD is reduced by 5s every time SCH uses an Aetherflow heal (doesn't apply to Energy Drain, because why would it? Yoshida doesn't like SCHs pressing that button)
Level 98- Enhanced Summon Seraph - reduces Seraph's CD to 90s
Level 100 - SCH gets a very powerful AoE shield+regen that can only be used while Seraph is summoned. Fey Blessing transforms into this button during Seraph's phase.

There - they can absolutely keep going with this direction in perpetuity. They've continued to go forward with it, and as much as it seems like there's nowhere to go, they can just keep doing what they've always done if they run out of ideas and remove key abilities from lower levels. It's almost 0 work they have to put in with healers, especially because for all of those except the level 100, you can give the EXACT same thing to SGE. Just change the names slightly and you've finished 50% of the healers outside of their 1 unique level 100 ability.

I'm surprised you can't picture Yoshida doing exactly that, because it's exactly what you're going to get.

[Supersnow845]

Oh yes, they can and absolutely will get MORE heals and charges. For example, for SCH -
Level 92 - Broil IV, Biolysis II
Level 95 - Enhanced Indomitibility - adds a second charge to Indom
Level 96 - Quickened Aetherflow - Aetherflow's CD is reduced by 5s every time SCH uses an Aetherflow heal (doesn't apply to Energy Drain, because why would it? Yoshida doesn't like SCHs pressing that button)
Level 98- Enhanced Summon Seraph - reduces Seraph's CD to 90s
Level 100 - SCH gets a very powerful AoE shield+regen that can only be used while Seraph is summoned. Fey Blessing transforms into this button during Seraph's phase.

There - they can absolutely keep going with this direction in perpetuity. They've continued to go forward with it, and as much as it seems like there's nowhere to go, they can just keep doing what they've always done if they run out of ideas and remove key abilities from lower levels. It's almost 0 work they have to put in with healers, especially because for all of those except the level 100, you can give the EXACT same thing to SGE. Just change the names slightly and you've finished 50% of the healers outside of their 1 unique level 100 ability.

I'm surprised you can't picture Yoshida doing exactly that, because it's exactly what you're going to get.

The return of quickened aetherflow here is so something I could see square doing because they’d think some dumb reward like that (healing to get faster access to more healing) is something people would use over energy drain

I feel like I’m peering into the future (and also the past somehow)