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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    A lot of people seem to be missing Exploratory zones, but the reality is they all just ended up being FATE trains.
    This is another reason I'm glad they didn't try to make another one of these. They need to tweak that model even further before trying it again. More often than not, you have FATE trains where people don't even get a chance to get a single hit on a target because some people used some ridiculous ability on it. Eureka was slightly better because you really had to work to pop something and then people will generally wait for whoever needs the FATE.

    The extra actions made things interesting and fun, but the downside (aside from what I mentioned above) is people don't know to use them or they never bothered to gather enough. This put a huge strain on things like CLL's opening fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    It's really weird how in the very same interview, Yoshi-P confirms that we'll see Scarmiglione first but then acts coy about the 6.2 trial.

    Maybe he'll fake his death in the 6.2 dungeon then attack us from behind for the trial?
    Not weird at all. All he said was that it was the first one we'd meet, not the first one we'd fight.

    Personally, I think the 6.2 trial won't be one of the fiends at all. My personal guess would be
    Azdaja though Zenos's avatar is another possibility, if less likely in my opinion


    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I'm so glad we're getting less content this expansion
    You're better off if you don't confuse "less content" with "less content that interests me".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    The whole point was that we're not necesserily getting more content than last expac.
    We're also not necessarily getting less.

    What we're getting is different content. We'll have to wait until patch 6.55 is released before we can decide whether it is more or less.

    Quote Originally Posted by znushu View Post
    After reading through the Famitsu interview myself I have a feeling that they might be doing another world changing event for 7.0.

    If true (which I doubt but you never know) I can't wait to live through another world disaster event, it's not everyday you play through two world disasters in one mmo. Hopefully the servers this time will be able to handle the load, last time in 1.0 the lag in congested areas made the event hard to playthrough.
    I don't think it's going to be a world breaking event.

    I think it's going to be
    Y'shtola finding the key to travel between the shards and/or Cid and Nero unlocking the key to time travel 200 years faster than it happened in the "abandoned" time line
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-10-2022 at 07:27 AM.

  3. #83
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Not weird at all. All he said was that it was the first one we'd meet, not the first one we'd fight.

    Personally, I think the 6.2 trial won't be one of the fiends at all.
    If there are 4 of these fiends, I think that's going to complete the set of trials. Since HW, we get 7 trial mounts to get the big one.
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    I appreciate that I got confirmation that I shouldn't care about Island Sanctuary.

    Don't mind the exploration zones format taking a break, but I'm not really fond of Deep Dungeons. I hope the new Criterions catch on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cach View Post
    I appreciate that I got confirmation that I shouldn't care about Island Sanctuary.

    Don't mind the exploration zones format taking a break, but I'm not really fond of Deep Dungeons. I hope the new Criterions catch on.
    Mythics do extrememly well in WoW, and Criterions are somewhat similar in principle to Mythics so it should. But knowing this community it'll just be something new for them to complain about with how its the same dungeon with the same mechanic alternating and we deserve more blah, blah, blah.
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    No new zones like Bozja is disappointing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Can't say I'm thrilled by the confirmation we're not getting exploration content this expac.
    I think it's a good opportunity for them to take a step back and reassess. They can look at what people really enjoyed about those zones and what they didn't. They can think carefully on ways to retain longevity. Maybe start with something simple like making them an option on WT. I know one place I had issue with the zones that I've heard from others is the isolation. You're in an instance, so you're constrained by the things you normally would be in Duty Finder. But it's not just a quick run and in between runs you go experience things in the rest of the world or even just take a breather. It becomes what you're doing for that entire night and I know I feel very disconnected from the game when I'm in there. Whereas if I'm farming some instance back to back with DF, I pepper other things between like checking my retainers, spending my tomes, crafting, gathering, playing with my minion, doing stuff in Gold Saucer, etc.

    I really want to like the exploration content. They're just not giving me much reason to. I do hope they find a way to bring it back and make it something we can find enjoyment in for years to come, and don't have to bribe people to partake in it.

    In regards to quest-centric ARR/HW relic questlines, I prefer that style for the same reason someone else mentioned. You can work on the steps and be rewarded for things you're already doing. I think each step should have multiple places someone can choose to fulfill the step. Then we're not stuck grinding the same area but able to engage with the content we enjoy. I'm almost certain Criterion dungeons are going to be an option for progression somewhere. I just hope they're not the only one. I'm looking forward to those for what they are, not because I need SE to bribe me into them. But if they are one of several options to progress and even if they're the best, I think a system like that is perfectly fine. Then everyone can progress at their own speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If there are 4 of these fiends, I think that's going to complete the set of trials. Since HW, we get 7 trial mounts to get the big one.
    The trial series since HW has been 3 trials plus some solo encounters so we were bound to end up missing at least one of them.

    Four Lords series in Stormblood? We only fought 3 of them in trials. The other was a dungeon.

    The weapons last expansion? There were four. We only fought 3 in trial. The other was a solo duty.

    The other 4 trials have been MSQ. We know this time the MSQ trial is coming this patch (6.2) instead of the usual x.3 patch.

    If the trial was going to be one of the fiends, there would have been little point in keeping it a secret.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Likewise. Eureka and Bozja brought players together in a way that other pieces of content simply do not. There's some neat little micro-communities that popped up in the same way as how there is a big network of players who follow and organise hunt trains.
    This game gets so increasingly more encouraging to solo play that I wish they made it an offline game from the start so it didn't feel like an on-rails easy mode FF that required its own sub. Then they could just tie the only content that still feels like an online game behind an optional multiplayer hub like Monster Hunter does: the raids
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    Chryden Speakel
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    I'm sad about not having a eureka/Bozja like instance.
    Eureka/ BA is the content that i like and play the most.

    But that also gives them more time to create a new experience next time.
    I hope for some large scale content with the next expansion.
    Until then I will play the "dead" content that is Eureka and host many more BA runs.
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