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  1. #11
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    Jagick's Avatar
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    Jagick Valarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    It wasn't on consoles, and it was a struggle to run on PCs of the time. The game ran on Crystal Tools (FFXIII) and now runs on a modified version of the Luminous Engine (FFXV) and among other issues had trouble displaying large amounts of players on screen at the same time, but there were some really beautiful areas.

    If you ask me, I'm a bit in the middle. The Gate of Nald area looks way too dark and poorly lit in 1.0 if you ask me. Camp Riversmeet looks beautiful in 1.0 but Central Thanalan looks kinda flat, and could be because nothing is casting real shadows there. What 1.0 had was a rather amazing sense of scale, though that came with very repetitive looking areas and don't get me started with the copy-pasted corridors of the Black Shroud.

    I'm tempted to find a better place in Toto-Rak from 6.1 because it's clearly way prettier than what you normally see in the game right now, and more in line with what I expect for the 7.0 visual update.
    That makes sense. I guess I'm just more partial to darker areas and more saturated colors as a personal preference. I actually like how dark the Gate of Nald is but the Chamber of Rule is too dark to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    I've watched videos of Yoshi-P saying 1.0 graphics were so highly defined that it drained a lot of resources just to keep the world running. He said he downgraded the graphics significantly to make sure the game would run without significant lag, so the faded-out / downgraded look was definitely intentional.
    I thought the issue with 1.0's poor performance had to do with small items having way too many polygons than they actually needed? That and just poor coding and optimization in general. But I remember frequently seeing some meme about flower pots.
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  2. #12
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I dig for this sort of comparisons Are there more?
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  3. #13
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Some stuff looks better now, some stuff better then ... meme at this point but those 1.0 walk and run animations were pretty sweet. The animation lock not so much lol.

    Wish when they added animation blending / canceling that it was to facilitate personal high quality animations (though I can imagine it melting most PCs if everyone had it). Certainly the game runs way better on more machines now though, so that's a win.

    I'm hoping the future graphics update will be an opportunity to fine tune some aspects without losing much performance for the general audience and then at the same time adding a few enthusiast settings.
    Few examples:




    Wasn't shown or discussed, afaik, but I would love to see things like weather, water, and other additional concepts like environmental / spell shaders or physics discussed. Weather effects are not bad, but some recent games or crazy older games, have made me go 'hot damn that weather is fine'.. and with such a diverse weather setting in this game that could be pretty fun. Although not graphics I'd love to see a movement / collision update, as we're seeing WoW do such in Dragonflight (and already had fairly smooth movement systems), and I've been goofing off with GW2 per recommendation and have been extremely impressed with their mount movement system (which I had recommended SE do before GW2 had.. and saw videos of GW2 and thought it was cool, but having played it- damn it's really cool to feel so fluid).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-09-2022 at 03:24 PM.

  4. #14
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Faerie
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    I may be going crazy but wasn't there stories circulating during 1.0 where high end PCs were basically burning out and dying due to how hard it was on them? I don't know how true that was but I also remember once my friend's screen going green when some of us were screwing around casting holy and Flare at one time. (Though his pc wasn't the greatest I think.)
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    look up the noClip documentary series on FFXIV. it will explain a lot.
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  6. #16
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I may be going crazy but wasn't there stories circulating during 1.0 where high end PCs were basically burning out and dying due to how hard it was on them? I don't know how true that was but I also remember once my friend's screen going green when some of us were screwing around casting holy and Flare at one time. (Though his pc wasn't the greatest I think.)
    I think a lot of people with "high end" pcs were stretching it. If you were zoomed in all the way and had people have a spam Holy Party, it would stutter and lag like it does now - and kick some people off the game. In the albeit short time I played I'd never heard of anyone blue screening/shutting down if their computer was properly set up. You aren't supposed to play on Ultra with a potato - same as now - but some people still do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I think a lot of people with "high end" pcs were stretching it. If you were zoomed in all the way and had people have a spam Holy Party, it would stutter and lag like it does now - and kick some people off the game. In the albeit short time I played I'd never heard of anyone blue screening/shutting down if their computer was properly set up. You aren't supposed to play on Ultra with a potato - same as now - but some people still do.
    Possible I had to play it on lower setting so didn't see it as much
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    Last edited by Rannie; 08-09-2022 at 03:13 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak (1.0 vs 6.1)




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  9. #19
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    N'kilah Razhi
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    1.0's specs was extremely demanding for PC and even people with a decent computer had difficulty running it. And while zones were big and open, there was nothing in them and there were a ton of copy and pasted assets. The Black Shroud was basically a copy and pasted maze of repeating pathways.

    Downgrading the graphics to allow the game to run on PS3 did have a bit to do it with, but also to allow people with older PCs to play the game as well. One of the reasons why WoW was so successful was because anyone could play that without having a super PC, and the FF14 team wanted to replicate that.
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  10. #20
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If you have an extremely detailed plant pot beside a pixelated tree it doesn't look very good.
    Or an entire forest of like... six clusters of trees, copied and pasted everywhere.

    (My salt with regards to the 1.x Black Shroud is dead and buried, but the grave is a very shallow one.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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