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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ....and your proof of this broad, sweeping claim is....?
    Probly his friends and a handful of people on these forums.
    Not to say they dont exist or they dont have opinions. But Im also skeptical if these voices are as big as they make it sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But Im also skeptical if these voices are as big as they make it sound.
    You say this but its the pro-Endwalker people who constantly shout "we're the majority!!!" everytime someone disagrees with them as if that's supposed to mean something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You say this but its the pro-Endwalker people who constantly shout "we're the majority!!!" everytime someone disagrees with them as if that's supposed to mean something.
    It is a hilarious back and forth, almost like most of you are screaming at the mirror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    You say this but its the pro-Endwalker people who constantly shout "we're the majority!!!" everytime someone disagrees with them as if that's supposed to mean something.
    Thats not me personally, I do think there is more praise for Endwalker then there is Hate, but that doesnt mean anything special to me.
    Its just a videogame, and everyone has an opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles View Post
    It is a hilarious back and forth, almost like most of you are screaming at the mirror.
    Better to scream at a Cactus then a Mirror. They are great listeners. Mirrors just repeat what you say and act like its smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Thats not me personally, I do think there is more praise for Endwalker then there is Hate, but that doesnt mean anything special to me.
    Didn't say you were, but I think its fair to acknowledge that it's not typically the anti-Endwalker people that use argumentum ad populum to pretend like the other side barely exists. Aveyond (nor myself) isn't saying that people who disagree with him are some small minority, he's saying that it's not just a handful of people who don't like what's been happening recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Its just a videogame, and everyone has an opinion.
    Very true, with this I can agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Didn't say you were, but I think its fair to acknowledge that it's not typically the anti-Endwalker people that use argumentum ad populum to pretend like the other side barely exists. Aveyond (nor myself) isn't saying that people who disagree with him are some small minority, he's saying that it's not just a handful of people who don't like what's been happening recently.



    Very true, with this I can agree.
    But they have insinuated that its a silent majority who dislikes Endwalker, which is most definitely not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But they have insinuated that its a silent majority who dislikes Endwalker, which is most definitely not the case.
    I'm not sure about a definite majority but I can easily believe that there is a very large amount of people who dislike Endwalker and are uncomfortable with saying that they do, causing them to be silent on the matter. Disliking Endwalker has been very unpopular in the 'mainstream' for a while now. Only recently have people built up enough will to express their real opinion on Endwalker and look what's happening to them. If they try and make a thread on the forums, they'll have pro-EW people come in and attempt to derail the topic. If they post their pro-zodiark comic on Reddit, it'll get downvoted into oblivion (even though the art itself was amazing) and eventually removed by mods even though it didn't break any rules. Hell, Zepla herself labeled anti-Endwalker people as 'trolls'. With how hellbent the pro-EW community is on silencing any negative opinions, no wonder most anti-EW people are silent. I would be if I didn't care so little about what other people thought of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But they have insinuated that its a silent majority who dislikes Endwalker, which is most definitely not the case.
    The thing about insinuating either side is that we just don't know. My philosophy on the whole thing is keep everything as your own opinion or that of your close group of like-minded friends and don't make grandiose claims beyond that, either for or against a topic. Unless you can poll a reasonable portion of the playerbase there is no way to make claims about what the playerbase feels about something.
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