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  1. #91
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Hate to point it out, but the devs are almost certainly convinced the average "Cocomelon enjoyer" is their playerbase. They see us (and especially newer players) as crayon eating dribbling toddlers who find pressing multiple buttons a challenge and need to be hand-held. It's insulting really.
    If more people would spend time actually TRYING to get better, and not complaining about stupid easy stuff....then I would disagree with how they potential view the average player like that.
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  2. #92
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Actually really cringeworthy videos. Getting to the point where I'd be ashamed to tell someone I play this game.
    Same. If my friends who don't play FFXIV find these, I'm going to curl into a ball and die from embarrassment.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Same. If my friends who don't play FFXIV find these, I'm going to curl into a ball and die from embarrassment.
    This, not ERP, is what makes this happen? ok
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    This, not ERP, is what makes this happen? ok
    ERP isn't officially endorsed 'content' by SE. It is thus correctly seen as fringe activities by outsiders. These videos are not only endorsed but CREATED by SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    irrespective of anything and everything, I super respect whoever trained an AI and released it onto the forums like this.
    I'm still keen to see if, one day, it'll manifest the "I" part of that acronym, as so far it's only been the "A", but I fear its creator may have imbued a little too much of themselves into it for that to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    If more people would spend time actually TRYING to get better, and not complaining about stupid easy stuff....then I would disagree with how they potential view the average player like that.
    But since they're actively attracting people like this and giving them absolutely no reason to improve, their own stance seems to be part of the problem.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    But since they're actively attracting people like this and giving them absolutely no reason to improve, their own stance seems to be part of the problem.
    This has always been the problem. SE doesn't treat us like children because we are stupid. They WANT their main payers to have the mind of a child and thus design their content for said children. Children who don't complain when the content slop they're fed isn't real food. You can already see this with Endwalker. Endwalker is lazily made slop, yet the 'majoritah' eats it up like good little piggies. These 'guide' videos are only a part of their training.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    My god, those guides are atrocious. The animation is hideous and the information is just bad, really bad. I thought you guys were being dramatic, but holy Jesus. It seriously feels like something aimed at children, but I don't think a 5 years old should be playing this.
    They may end up more successful than you think.

    People of all ages watch animated movies even if they appear to be designed to appeal to small children. It's fun entertainment even if you're not a kid or don't have them.

    Older adults are going to understand that the starter guide art style is intended for "audiences of all ages" and that it's not targeted specifically at them. They'll shrug it off. It's especially going to appeal to adults who are looking for something they can play with their children or grandchildren (especially if they live apart and can only do things together online).

    The ones most likely to end up put off by it would be young adults, but they aren't a strong MMORPG demographic anymore. They're usually more interested in mobile games or competitive games.


    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    ERP isn't officially endorsed 'content' by SE. It is thus correctly seen as fringe activities by outsiders. These videos are not only endorsed but CREATED by SE.
    Then look at it this way - the starter guide may drive away the potential new ERPers who would think it's gross to be ERPing in a kiddie game..


    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    This has always been the problem. SE doesn't treat us like children because we are stupid. They WANT their main payers to have the mind of a child and thus design their content for said children. Children who don't complain when the content slop they're fed isn't real food. You can already see this with Endwalker. Endwalker is lazily made slop, yet the 'majoritah' eats it up like good little piggies. These 'guide' videos are only a part of their training.
    If you truly, genuinely believe this...

    Why are you even here playing this game?
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  8. #98
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    I think the attention to introduce someone who doesnt know how mmo works to ff14 was good will. But the video remind me of 5 year old kids show with cringe. I will not recommend those videos for newcomers if I want to introducing someone on ff14. SE, put more work on it please.
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  9. #99
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    If this series is too childish in appearance, does anyone care to share a sample of what an intro / promo "should" look like to the demographic?
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  10. #100
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    The anime “Choose Your Life” commercial along with the other Korean anime as they made years ago. Adults still watch and can find anime palatable, but the art style in these tutorial videos just misses the mark by too much.
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