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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    By any chance, you mean this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
    I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.
    From quickly watching through those videos and using Google translate on descriptions, they're not the same thing. They're more like a video Hall of the Novice going over topics related only to party content (coordinating attacks, dodging mechanics, buffs and debuffs, etc). They looked like tutorials intended for those who already started the game and are just getting into party content, not new players looking for general tips about the new player experience.

    The starter guide in English, French and German definitely come across as more of a marketing tool than a detailed tutorial.

    Going back through their video lists for the past several months, everything else seems to be the usual patch trailers, live letters, Primals videos, etc. I can't find other videos that seems to be related to new player guides.

    Maybe there is some other starter guide for JP or maybe they haven't released the JP version of this starter guide yet?

    If I were to guess what they're trying to do, they created the starters guide in the western languages as a marketing tool to try to draw in new players to help populate the new OCE and EU worlds, and what would have been new NA worlds this month if that hadn't ended up delayed until November.

    The party guides released in JP may still end up released later for the other regions once localization is completed. There was no voice dialog - all information in those videos was captioned so it shouldn't be a difficult to change the captions to the correct localization by region. Certainly they seemed a good visual aid for players that would be useful if they did add localization.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
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    I've also included other parts of the videos in my edited post, but you are right about one thing. It's more of a marketing tool than anything else. There wasn't any of similar videos (as far as I can see) uploaded in JP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    By any chance, you mean this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
    I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.


    EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

    I love how the guide is way better than other language, especially that "refresh DoT when it's 3-5 seconds left"
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  4. #74
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    Vel Kallor
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    Pesky things too! When I was a wee lil tyke we were in the car with my Gran at Healesville and one waked up brave as usual and poked it's head into the car window to steal her bag of chips. I will never forget her shreak - and how hard we laughed.
    Look at it this way Shibi..we have a perfect weapon if we ever do go to war with the emus.

    We can disguise ourselves using an emu-lator.









    I'll just see myself out....
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-28-2022 at 09:40 PM.

  5. #75
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    I watched them all. Only thing that bugged me was how the catboy said Ifrit.

    I think with the idea in mind that they're probably aimed at those with little to no gaming and/or MMO experience, they're very helpful and informative guides. They've got some charm and humor to them, which makes watching them fun. I don't know being adult or late teen means that someone can't enjoy the animated visuals or the cheerful atmosphere. They seem to me that they would be an effective marketing tool. They really don't seem to be intended to go in depth, just be something that someone can use to get their feet under them.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    You have to understand that I speak from the perspective of someone who wants FFXIV to succeed and be the best version of itself possible. If I see things that give me pause, such as these videos, I will call attention to it. I think that SE can and should do better.
    and of course you are the one and true arbiter of what is deemed "best". even more so than the devs it seems with your inflated ego.
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  7. #77
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    Honestly the whole thing looks like the videos they show you at work when you're first hired. They're corny/cheesy- somewhat silly and also kinda stupid. But it gets the point across (somewhat). My only complaint about the videos is that they need to remove the blue quests from specific things and categorize them with the story (like the dungeon quests for side dungeons needing to be in the same pile of blue quests as say hildiband)
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  8. #78
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    Actually really cringeworthy videos. Getting to the point where I'd be ashamed to tell someone I play this game.
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    So they spent their increased budget on useless projects like this, and soulless corporate art style at that too? Sigh.

    If they wanted to appeal to potential new customers or new players, maybe instead they could have commissioned some famous or proven/legendary JP artists and key animators, to create some short stories for each job in the game, to appeal to both new and old players, and more importantly allure for potential players, as it would be short animation at some peak appeal for each job style and potential an interesting take of the FF14 jobs with some exciting art, which could end up as secondary for concepting possible future gear/glam.
    But it seems SE is hellbent on removing anything exciting and appealing from their games/products, as of late.

    Also making such guide videos more or less just proves that the problem lies in the beginning of the game. Maybe they should improve to make more exciting, instead of wasting precious budget on such videos, like maybe hire additional developers to refine the beginning, and perhaps also to staff more developers for certain jobs and roles too? The game doesn't need a bigger budget for its marketing but for its content creation and quality of life improvements, aka hire more developers to properly staff each segment of important content pipeline. And maybe also quality assurance, like having a second look at their stories, before releasing a heap of a plot hole riddled mess of a story. Or making sure their upcoming job changes aren't tone-deaf beyond measure.

    This has only made me doubt the future for this game even more. Not that SE hadn't already done plenty of that as of late.
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  10. #80
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    They look rather hideous to me, but I'm not fond of this art style from the outset and if this was my first impression of the game, coupled with ARR in general, I'd probably go find something else. They've done some nifty looking anime short piece in the past, which looked way better. Doubt these guides will accomplish what tools like HotN, various well written guides etc. have thus far failed to accomplish. You can lead a horse to water, only this one might kick you in the face for trying to help it. It's down to the incentive structure the game itself creates/imposes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Actually really cringeworthy videos. Getting to the point where I'd be ashamed to tell someone I play this game.
    You and I both, brother.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 08-09-2022 at 07:38 PM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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