The Image of FFXIV

[DPZ2]

I was pleasantly surprised by the videos. They are spot on for describing the leveling and gameplay experience for the first 20 levels of the game to someone who is either new to video games in general or MMORPGs in particular. I'd pass along the link to friends who haven't touched a video game since college when video games as a genre of entertainment were only starting to take off in the mid '80s. Meanwhile, most of my high-school friends are already grandparents.

They are not tutorials for current players. They are not tutorials for players who are coming into the game who already have experience playing another MMORPG. They are a marketing tool. The sooner folks realize that an introduction to the basics for a game they have never played is something new players will find useful, the better.

For experienced or current players ... the only true guides and videos out there are mostly

* massively outdated
* aimed at a hard-core player audience
* mostly blank when it comes to discussing the 1-90 player experience

That last includes discussions of mechanics, instances, using the market board effectively to purchase (not sell) something, and the best of the non-max-level rotations.

It took me 5 years to get to the point where I could play Black Mage with any specific level of expertise past ARR. The tools and rotations kept changing every expansion and 'guides' stuck to how to play your best at max-level in raids. I really don't need a string of icons showing the 2-minute opener for a job at end game as "here's the rotation, but only until the next expansion comes out. Don't use it at lower levels, because most of the stuff we discuss requires you to get to 70 first"

I have yet to see a content creator discuss the best means of leveling from 1 to 50, for instance. I include sites such as icy-veins, which looks more and more like wowhead every day. Most of the people who visit these forums have already "been there-done that-threw away the T-shirt".

[AwesomeJr44]

you know, you could just have compiled all of that into one reply post

Didn't feel like it. Don't feel like it now.

Again you keep focusing on attacking me personally rather than debate or discuss the actual topic that was presented in this thread.

Would you like to point out where this occurred? All I have done is ask why you bothered posting if you think the thread is so unworthy of people caring. An opinion you made known here:

This is such a non-issue that begs to be explained why even bother making a thread about it. Like honestly, who cares?

You haven't been personally attacked. I have not attacked you. If I have done ANY attacking (I haven't) it was to your actions and words. All I've done is expose that you're only here to disrupt the discussion going on in this thread.

If you would like a different discussion to take place, as I said in my last post, you are more than free to go make your own thread about whatever you like. If you want a thread that praises the new videos as amazing, you may make that thread. Now if people show up and disagree, disagreement is the cost of making a thread and thus opening a discussion. But don't come into this thread and insult both the topic and the thread creator, then pretend like you're being attacked once what you're doing has been revealed.

It's always fascinating when someone comes into a thread specifically intending to harass, insult and stalk a particular individual only to get a bit of light pushback and declare that they, themselves, are the one being 'harassed'.

This coming after they swear up and down that they don't care about expend multiple posts within a relatively short period of time certainly allows people to come to some interesting conclusions, I think.

It's because they DO care, just not in the same way we do. We want discussion and open discourse. They want to shut it down because it goes against their narrative that everything's fine. Of course, once they're exposed for doing this, they sense an attack upon their narrative, and seeing as they've made their narrative so integral to their being, they perceive it as an attack on themselves.

[VelKallor]

To briefly touch on the video series, I think it is important to consider that the players of FFXIV are of a mostly adult or late teen audience

Funny, thats not what you said here

While I admittedly haven't had the time to read each post in this thread, I just wanted to chime in and say that I'm not sure that making MSQ content easier in order to not exclude older players is a good thing. Why would someone in their late teens or early 20s want to play a game that was also designed to accommodate for the reaction times of someone significantly older? I do think that having a set target demographic in terms of age is a good thing, especially in terms of difficulty level.

[VelKallor]

The Brits are still salty that the Americans whooped them in the Revolutionary War and came to save their butts in not one but both world wars. lel

There are a thousand things I could say to this...but Ill save the history lesson for another day.

[Jojoya]

After finally watching all 6 episodes (or 7 if you count the intro), I realized that the animation and to some degree the voice acting reminded me very much of Disney animated movies from the 1990s and 2000s. I wonder if they brought in some old (or even current) Disney employees as consultants.

It taught me only ninjas should use limit breaks and mentors like to spoil the story for new players. (yeah, those sections could have been done better)

It's decent for a first effort as a starter's guide but definitely could use some touch ups to better explain some things (like the limit break).

It's also targeted at free trial players. They should add an episode for paid players that talk about things like free companies, linkshells and retainers.

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

[Nizzi]

There are a thousand things I could say to this...but Ill save the history lesson for another day.

your country lost a war against emus

[VelKallor]

your country lost a war against emus

We shall fight them on the beaches
We shall fight them for sandwiches
We will never surrender....

[AwesomeJr44]

your country lost a war against emus

All I'm saying is that if those emus rolled up to 'Murica, they'd be tonight's dinner.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

Generic AoE/Markers
Pt.1
Pt.2

DPS

Healers

Tanks

Buffs and Debuffs

Limit Breaks

[Shibi]

We shall fight them on the beaches
We shall fight them for sandwiches
We will never surrender....

Pesky things too! When I was a wee lil tyke we were in the car with my Gran at Healesville and one waked up brave as usual and poked it's head into the car window to steal her bag of chips. I will never forget her shreak - and how hard we laughed.