The Image of FFXIV

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ok so even if I assume that Aveyond is being a massive Karen when he complains, (he's not, give his most recent comment a read, or a re-read if you need to) you posting on his threads literally defeats the purpose of claiming the thread is worthless. If the thread is truly is so worthless, ignore it and let it fester and die instead of feeding it fuel to grow. Fire doesn't burn without fuel.

Unless you actually think the thread is in fact NOT worthless and thus will have actual discussion take place there. Then you would have a reason to show up and talk about it. However, then the thread wouldn't be worthless as there would be a conversation occurring there. Do you see how contradictory your presence here is?

The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make. How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother. Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information. But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer. Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down. Again I say, who honestly cares. How about we discuss more important things tham the oh noes our precious "image".

[AwesomeJr44]

The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make.

My point has been consistent. If you think the thread is worthless, why are you here? At least my point isn't defeated by my very presence.

How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond.

If you didn't want people focusing on that, why'd you say it?

and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

The point of the thread is to discuss the kiddish art styles used in the official guides put out by SE and how it's made for the wrong target audience. You seem to understand the point of the thread quite well. If you want to discuss this point, you are free to. However, painting the thread as pointless isn't discussing things, it's trying to shut down a discussion you don't like.

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother.

Cool. It still exists. Thus we can talk about it.

Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information.

If you are interested in this discussion and do not see a thread discussing it, you are free to make that thread.

But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer.

And you know this how exactly? Everything they've said seems to counter this point.

Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down.

Right, the hardcore MMO players already don't want to play the game, so let's drive away the midcore and semi-serious players too.

Again I say, who honestly cares.

You do. You're commenting in the thread. You obviously care about the topic to some extent.

How about we discuss more important things that the oh noes our precious "image".

Sure. Go make that thread. If people are interested, they'll drop in and talk about it.