The Image of FFXIV

[AwesomeJr44]

This is such a non-issue that begs to be explained why even bother making a thread about it. Like honestly, who cares?

Apparently you. Seriously, if its such a non-issue and the thread is thus pointless, why are you here exactly?

But that's not going to happen. I mean there's some pretty mature topics being discussed in-game, they can't really go any lower than 16.

You'd think that but with how much the new videos look like children's cartoons I wouldn't put it past them to cut certain mature topics out of the story if they feel they can succeed in getting that younger audience. They've already proven that they are willing to cut out parts of the story that are 'unnecessary' if they feel it will help the game in 5.3.

So it just makes me more curious as to who they're trying to target with this. I'm pretty sure I'm part of the youngest generation on FF14 and I don't feel like it's targeting me...

It's targeted towards children and adults who are mentally children. That's why a lot of the information in it is so obvious only a child wouldn't understand it.

I just think its funny how they released these goofy cartoons in every language but Japanese. But if you check the channel they released a completely separate series of Japanese text-only guides that strictly cover gameplay mechanics. Feels kind of like they're treating the western audience like kids or idiots.

Japanese companies have always treated westerners like stupid children. I mean, look at some of the stuff Nintendo does in their games. They literally released an entirely different version of Super Mario Bros. 2 in the west because it was 'too hard for westerners'. Both Nintendo and SE always treat Japanese people as adults and anyone outside of Japan like mentally handicapped children who need to be slowly hand held through the entire game.

Matters such as this one concern me because I would like for new players and those outside the fanbase to perceive the game in a more positive light.

Good luck with that now. I sure hope my friends who don't play FFXIV don't see this video because this is going to kill the image of the game for anyone who is above the age of 7.

Um sir, I'm sorry to inform you who has over nine thousand post count that these are discussion boards and that they're here for people to discuss things.

Yes. You are indeed correct. And Theodric is responding to someone who is trying to shut down that discussion by painting the thread as worthless. Thus you are disagreeing with someone who is supporting the same thing you are.

Not sure what my post count has to do with it, though. I didn't even notice it had passed the 9000 mark. Nice, I guess.

It's an excuse for why you're apparently shutting down discussion. They chose this one because there's literally no actual proof that you're shutting down discussion.

I’m not sure if people who have never played a video game before should be the audience this game targets with its tutorials videos. Instead they have claimed to want more people who like single player titles to try out FFXIV. As one of those people, if you showed me a video like these ones I wouldn’t have a very good view of the game and likely choose another title over it. Please respect this audience more.

The dev team has made it clear that they're more interested in getting new people into the game than keeping the older ones. Thus its ironic that they're so out of touch that they made these videos that are only going to chase new people away.

So much drama over animations and tutorials. Grow up!

Oh no! God forbid people discuss videos produced by SE! Such horrid drama! How dare these people DARE to have an opinion. Grow up.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Apparently you. Seriously, if its such a non-issue and the thread is thus pointless, why are you here exactly?

Hey If Aveyond-Dreams can constantly nitpick and complain about every single little itty bitty thing about FFXIV that would make the average Karen put their heads down in shame, then I'm allowed to do the same with every one of these posts and threads he/she makes.

[AwesomeJr44]

Hey If Aveyond-Dreams can constantly nitpick and complain about every single little itty bitty thing about FFXIV that would make the average Karen put their heads down in shame, then I'm allowed to do the same with every one of these posts and threads he/she makes.

Ok so even if I assume that Aveyond is being a massive Karen when he complains, (he's not, give his most recent comment a read, or a re-read if you need to) you posting on his threads literally defeats the purpose of claiming the thread is worthless. If the thread is truly is so worthless, ignore it and let it fester and die instead of feeding it fuel to grow. Fire doesn't burn without fuel.

Unless you actually think the thread is in fact NOT worthless and thus will have actual discussion take place there. Then you would have a reason to show up and talk about it. However, then the thread wouldn't be worthless as there would be a conversation occurring there. Do you see how contradictory your presence here is?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Ok so even if I assume that Aveyond is being a massive Karen when he complains, (he's not, give his most recent comment a read, or a re-read if you need to) you posting on his threads literally defeats the purpose of claiming the thread is worthless. If the thread is truly is so worthless, ignore it and let it fester and die instead of feeding it fuel to grow. Fire doesn't burn without fuel.

Unless you actually think the thread is in fact NOT worthless and thus will have actual discussion take place there. Then you would have a reason to show up and talk about it. However, then the thread wouldn't be worthless as there would be a conversation occurring there. Do you see how contradictory your presence here is?

The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make. How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother. Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information. But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer. Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down. Again I say, who honestly cares. How about we discuss more important things tham the oh noes our precious "image".

[AwesomeJr44]

The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make.

My point has been consistent. If you think the thread is worthless, why are you here? At least my point isn't defeated by my very presence.

How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond.

If you didn't want people focusing on that, why'd you say it?

and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

The point of the thread is to discuss the kiddish art styles used in the official guides put out by SE and how it's made for the wrong target audience. You seem to understand the point of the thread quite well. If you want to discuss this point, you are free to. However, painting the thread as pointless isn't discussing things, it's trying to shut down a discussion you don't like.

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother.

Cool. It still exists. Thus we can talk about it.

Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information.

If you are interested in this discussion and do not see a thread discussing it, you are free to make that thread.

But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer.

And you know this how exactly? Everything they've said seems to counter this point.

Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down.

Right, the hardcore MMO players already don't want to play the game, so let's drive away the midcore and semi-serious players too.

Again I say, who honestly cares.

You do. You're commenting in the thread. You obviously care about the topic to some extent.

How about we discuss more important things that the oh noes our precious "image".

Sure. Go make that thread. If people are interested, they'll drop in and talk about it.

[Atelier-Bagur]

you know, you could just have compiled all of that into one reply post rather than making this obsessive looking cringey counter point to almost every single statement I made. Again you keep focusing on attacking me personally rather than debate or discuss the actual topic that was presented in this thread.