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[MintnHoney]

It's weird there is a UK version and USA version that are exactly the same. Are USA people that offended to click on a video with a UK flag?

Yes, and vice versa, as evidenced by these here forums. The only difference is that it's more normalized to point the finger and shit all over the US for it.

Meanwhile, those videos encouraged pulling with Provoke, and said healers should stay out of the way and heal. So, I guess that's our future, can't wait for that AST update in 7.0. Looking forward to it.

I think the answer to that would be the same gaggle of posters who, without fail, predictably show up in the threads they supposedly do not care about to let everyone know how much they're allegedly unbothered by whatever the premise of that thread may be.

I'll be honest, I don't know why you even bothered to answer him, since that's basically his entire M.O..

[Jojoya]

Need to remember these guides are being released in multiple languages. They're going to develop them in a style that resonations with their JP audience (which may also resonate with international players who enjoy anime). It's the dialogue localization that differs.

I have to admit that the dialog doesn't click with me as an older person but I don't know what age audience they're trying to target or if that's representative of the majority denographic for new players. On the other hand, it also doesn't really bug me since I don't expect them to be designing promotional material for those close to my age.

Or it could be they're assuming older players have prior MMO experience and are unlikely to watch the guide, that only younger players would. After all, it's not promotional material intended to generate direct sales. It's promotional material directed at those who have already installed the game and want to start playing.

What would be more useful to SE than feedback from us jaded game veterans is feedback from those new to the game or who are considering getting it. That would help them determine if they're hitting the mark for the intended audience.

It's weird there is a UK version and USA version that are exactly the same. Are USA people that offended to click on a video with a UK flag?

Each version displays the rating system relevant to the region (ESRB for US, PEGI for UK). Just about everything that SE releases in multiple languages will end up with both US and UK versions as a result.

[MintnHoney]

Need to remember these guides are being released in multiple languages. They're going to develop them in a style that resonations with their JP audience (which may also resonate with international players who enjoy anime). It's the dialogue localization that differs.

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

[Jojoya]

After finally watching all 6 episodes (or 7 if you count the intro), I realized that the animation and to some degree the voice acting reminded me very much of Disney animated movies from the 1990s and 2000s. I wonder if they brought in some old (or even current) Disney employees as consultants.

It taught me only ninjas should use limit breaks and mentors like to spoil the story for new players. (yeah, those sections could have been done better)

It's decent for a first effort as a starter's guide but definitely could use some touch ups to better explain some things (like the limit break).

It's also targeted at free trial players. They should add an episode for paid players that talk about things like free companies, linkshells and retainers.

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

Generic AoE/Markers
Pt.1
Pt.2

DPS

Healers

Tanks

Buffs and Debuffs

Limit Breaks

[Jojoya]

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

From quickly watching through those videos and using Google translate on descriptions, they're not the same thing. They're more like a video Hall of the Novice going over topics related only to party content (coordinating attacks, dodging mechanics, buffs and debuffs, etc). They looked like tutorials intended for those who already started the game and are just getting into party content, not new players looking for general tips about the new player experience.

The starter guide in English, French and German definitely come across as more of a marketing tool than a detailed tutorial.

Going back through their video lists for the past several months, everything else seems to be the usual patch trailers, live letters, Primals videos, etc. I can't find other videos that seems to be related to new player guides.

Maybe there is some other starter guide for JP or maybe they haven't released the JP version of this starter guide yet?

If I were to guess what they're trying to do, they created the starters guide in the western languages as a marketing tool to try to draw in new players to help populate the new OCE and EU worlds, and what would have been new NA worlds this month if that hadn't ended up delayed until November.

The party guides released in JP may still end up released later for the other regions once localization is completed. There was no voice dialog - all information in those videos was captioned so it shouldn't be a difficult to change the captions to the correct localization by region. Certainly they seemed a good visual aid for players that would be useful if they did add localization.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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I've also included other parts of the videos in my edited post, but you are right about one thing. It's more of a marketing tool than anything else. There wasn't any of similar videos (as far as I can see) uploaded in JP.

[Knot_D]

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

Generic AoE/Markers
Pt.1
Pt.2

DPS

Healers

Tanks

Buffs and Debuffs

Limit Breaks

I love how the guide is way better than other language, especially that "refresh DoT when it's 3-5 seconds left"

[Shougun]

Fresh blood is always good, and there is a huge part of the gaming community who are daunted by MMOs due to the toxic reputation of online play. While I am not much into the millenial-kiddy style of the videos they do have some solid information in them once you get past the #0 of them.



It's weird there is a UK version and USA version that are exactly the same. Are USA people that offended to click on a video with a UK flag?

I'm sorry did you say I have to click on the non-freedom version? Fwaaah.. Sickness must be purged!

I will pay my increased health care costs for lesser results thank you very much!!! FRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMM YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAH!



The intro art was a bit.... different... Perhaps they thought all of us older folks don't need help getting into the game mechanics, even if the DF begs to differ lol. At least it looks like a lot of effort was put in, I don't feel they were cheaply made.

Could be what people are saying, but in the minds of marketing, a good thing- targeting an audience they feel they're not currently tapping.

I do appreciate such things even exist, though I hope they're trying to support best habits as they go too.. I did hear on reddit about the US healer guide not really talking about DPS lol. Haven't reached it myself yet, slap me if it's poor hearsay.