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    I feel like anyone comparing anything even remotely difficult to Dark Souls has never touched touched a single Ninja Gaiden in their life, 2d or 3d.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    I feel like anyone comparing anything even remotely difficult to Dark Souls has never touched touched a single Ninja Gaiden in their life, 2d or 3d.
    Honestly I think most people claiming souls games are difficult have never actually played one before. They just parrot what other people have said about how hard they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Honestly I think most people claiming souls games are difficult have never actually played one before. They just parrot what other people have said about how hard they are.
    It gets to the point where sometimes I wish the Soulsborne series never gained that reputation to begin with, but then people would just jump to the next comparison and use that instead.

    Such as Ninja Gaiden U_U.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    It gets to the point where sometimes I wish the Soulsborne series never gained that reputation to begin with, but then people would just jump to the next comparison and use that instead.

    Such as Ninja Gaiden U_U.
    Yeah, especially when the intention is basically just to shut down any requests for a bit more difficulty in some modes, with the usual "go play that game instead".
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    I dunno why the JP guide got right to explaining mechanics and the EN guide was uh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I dunno why the JP guide got right to explaining mechanics and the EN guide was uh...
    Because the two sets of videos has 2 different purposes.

    The starter guides are a marketing tool aimed at those not already playing the game. It covers simple game basics that a new player will experience.

    The JP "House Party Play" (actual translation from the titles) guides are targeted at those who are now players and teach the basics of group combat. They don't cover a lot of the things mentioned in the starter guides, such as quest types and using the game map.
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    One could say a similar thing in regards to those who are quick to call upon Game of Thrones whenever someone asks for something more to be done with the main cast, with a strong aversion to seeing anything harmful happen to these characters from permanent injury to death despite them ultimately being fictional creations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    One could say a similar thing in regards to those who are quick to call upon Game of Thrones whenever someone asks for something more to be done with the main cast, with a strong aversion to seeing anything harmful happen to these characters from permanent injury to death despite them ultimately being fictional creations.
    They have had permanent injury and many characters have died.


    You guys act like there were 0 deaths and no consequences in endwalker at all.

    Also, for all your talk about loving fantasy, you sure seem to struggle with the fact that in a fantasy story with magic and world altering abilities, the main cast can avoid death in some ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They have had permanent injury and many characters have died.


    You guys act like there were 0 deaths and no consequences in endwalker at all.

    Also, for all your talk about loving fantasy, you sure seem to struggle with the fact that in a fantasy story with magic and world altering abilities, the main cast can avoid death in some ways.
    Not for the main party, no. The characters did not grow, nor did they suffer lasting consequences. Their sole sacrifice was undone within the span of an hour. I expect better storytelling than this. Not enough was done with these characters to justify their survival.

    Given that they escaped Endwalker unscathed and are now set to remain despite widespread voices from all sectors of the community calling for their retirement, their continued presence is reasonable cause for concern as the average side-character or antagonist is oftentimes better received than the typical scion.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 08-12-2022 at 06:11 AM.
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    despite widespread voices from all sectors of the community calling for their retirement,
    ....and your proof of this broad, sweeping claim is....?
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