Rescue is Griefing

[NekoMataMata]

Respectfully, I don’t consider an ability that you can only use once every 2 minutes “god modeing”. As a healer, it is your job to keep your team alive. If Rescuing them to safety during a mechanic is how you do it, then that’s that. Rescue is the least overpowered ability in a healer’s kit, to be honest.

I mean it's not the most overpowered ability in a healer's kit but it is definitely god modeing. Every two minutes if you have a problematic teammate you get to play the game for them to a degree. No other class has the ability to displace another player, to make another player participate or properly perform a mechanic.

But even then, there's too much abuse with it. It's also a heavy case of "healer knows best" where a lot of times egomaniacal healers use it thinking they're helping and they end up damaging the party instead(i.e. that one healer that decided I wasn't moving quickly enough to the rest of the party with my stack marker and ended up sling shotting me away from them instead). I regularly hear about healers, new or old using it to drag tanks through dungeons as if they were dogs on leashes. For all the good it does, it seems to be used poorly just as many times.

[Nav_Fae]

Rescue needs to go.
So many times people rescue when I'm perfectly fine.

[DragonFlyy]

Aglaia. I use it during Byergot's fight when people can't seem to figure out which platform to stand on when the hammers are going.

It's also a heavy case of "healer knows best" where a lot of times egomaniacal healers use it thinking they're helping and they end up damaging the party instead

Have never had anyone tell me anything close to this. Most times I get a thank you because they forgot/messed up a mechanic. Not everyone thinks they are perfect, and don't need help at times.

[Bobby66]

Rescue saves lives, in many ways. Even if it does not save a laugh you are bound to at the very least get a laugh.

[HyoMinPark]

I mean it's not the most overpowered ability in a healer's kit but it is definitely god modeing. Every two minutes if you have a problematic teammate you get to play the game for them to a degree. No other class has the ability to displace another player, to make another player participate or properly perform a mechanic.

I still disagree. Rescue isn’t a god mode skill. It’s there to provide assistance if it’s needed. There’s no encounter where you’d even be using it on cooldown, and outside of specific coordinates incidents (e.g., Hello World Rescue in O12S), when and where it’s used is completely random.

If I have a problematic teammate, I just let them hit the floor and hope they are laying there thinking about what they’ve done. If they continue to be problematic, then I simply stop wasting my mana on raising them. (I only make an exception for people who are new and don’t know the mechanics.) That’s more “god mode” than Rescue, in my opinion.

But even then, there's too much abuse with it.

Then report the abuse; but it’s usage is never a clear cut case of abuse (in GM terms) unless blatantly stated by the healer Rescuing. How many uses are actually abuse and how many are simply construed that way due to negative bias?

Mistiming a Rescue isn’t abuse. Misjudging where the person being Rescued to isn’t abuse. It happens the same way mistiming a heal does. It’s an honest mistake, but it seems like a lot of people want to call a healer mistiming their skill “abusing” or “griefing” someone.

It's also a heavy case of "healer knows best" where a lot of times egomaniacal healers use it thinking they're helping and they end up damaging the party instead(i.e. that one healer that decided I wasn't moving quickly enough to the rest of the party with my stack marker and ended up sling shotting me away from them instead).

Rescue pulls you to the healer. How did it slingshot you away from them? I’m assuming the healer was already with the party, so it makes no sense for you to ping pong away from them if they use the skill. That said, I can understand trying to Rescue someone with a stack marker because, far too often and far more often than I see people Rescuing, people run away with the stack and end up killing themselves and anyone foolish enough to try to follow.

This seems to be a misjudgment on the healer’s part, which, again, is not an abuse of the skill. Healers aren’t perfect beings who never make a mistake. Something else to also keep in mind is that you might not have appeared to be moving on their screen. There is a delay between when you start moving and when other players actually see you moving.

In short, I don’t think this situation is as nefarious as you’re making it seem.

I regularly hear about healers, new or old using it to drag tanks through dungeons as if they were dogs on leashes. For all the good it does, it seems to be used poorly just as many times.

I have heard this, but I’ve done many dungeon runs and never actually seen it. That said, you are still blaming the tool because of the player using it.

[Bobby66]

I have used it a tank leash before but with a two minute cooldown it is not exactly spammable nor off cooldown enough to really warrant such a use a utterly abusive imo.

[Sebazy]

II regularly hear about healers, new or old using it to drag tanks through dungeons as if they were dogs on leashes. For all the good it does, it seems to be used poorly just as many times.

And how do you 'drag a tank through dungeons as if they were dogs on leashes' with an ability on a 2 minute cooldown?

I'd wonder if the tank was simply afk, but then they wouldn't be in combat and rescue wouldn't work anyway.

[Evergrey]

I've never had someone grief me with it.
Nor has I seen anyone grief someone else with it.
I think the problem is far smaller than some makes it up to be.

The only times someone used Rescue on me was when I was in a bad position for a mechanic.

[Padudu]

And how do you 'drag a tank through dungeons as if they were dogs on leashes' with an ability on a 2 minute cooldown?

I'd wonder if the tank was simply afk, but then they wouldn't be in combat and rescue wouldn't work anyway.

Yeah there's no way that isn't an exaggeration.

Also, wouldn't this be on the tank then? They are likely doing something weird, AFK, or dragging feet through wet concrete for them to feel like they were being dragged like dogs lol? It would definitely be more than the healer at that point, as most dungeon runs the healer should be beside the tank or the tank is running ahead.

[axetastic]

Rescue saves lives, in many ways. Even if it does not save a laugh you are bound to at the very least get a laugh.

For real. I always get a kick out of being rescued. Either I'm distracted and am about to get slapped with something, or I get a free ride across the room. It's good for a laugh. I'm not going for world first ultimate here - a few seconds of lost uptime is not enough to break my fragile ego.

I think some people get really upset about any perceived loss of control.

Here's a person who's never rescued a melee DPS back to the boss for better uptime after they had to run away to drop an AOE marker.

Ultima in the last Ivalice raid, at the end of the maze: I always end up getting the proximity arrow marker that you have to drop in the void. The other day, a healer rescued me back to the boss once the explosion went off. My little heart soared.

I was so excited, and thanked the healer for being amazing. That healer STILL apologized to me pre-emptively, probably because they had so many fragile egos gripe at them for DARING to scoot them out of place.

Rescue needs to go.
So many times people rescue when I'm perfectly fine.

This is such a small inconvenience to you, at the loss of a really valuable skill. A lot of people who are rescued (and gripe about it) might THINK they're fine, while being totally unaware of an incoming mechanic.

I've seen rescue used for griefing maybe once. And it was probably an accident.

Like the time I rescued my partner into the chasm going to the frog boss in the Shadowbringers fae dungeon. I thought it would zip him to the other side. Whoops.