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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Even if we have a "culture of the same", your message remains inappropriate. In the sense that it is normal to expect global improvements for a company that has decent revenues.

    Less so to throw tantrums over minimal customizations. If we were to take into account all the minimal requests that appear on this forum, then even a company like SE would be unable to provide the work.

    You also say the same thing in your post, showing that you are aware that your provocation was nothing more than that - provocation - and therefore it is quite hypocritical to be surprised that someone would pick up on your taunt.
    They are probably "provocating" because people are defending a company that puts a cash shop in a game that asks for a monthly fee. If you are going to get left handed animations I would not be shocked if they either say "lol, too costly" or "We are adding the option in the mogshop! Look forward to it!". It's not that hard to figure out, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Even if we have a "culture of the same", your message remains inappropriate. In the sense that it is normal to expect global improvements for a company that has decent revenues.
    Cry more about it. :P Also, I have made plenty of detailed criticisms of certain elements of XIV over how SE has handled its content and their attitude towards their players. I mainly wanted to poke fun at Silverbane's comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Less so to throw tantrums over minimal customizations. If we were to take into account all the minimal requests that appear on this forum, then even a company like SE would be unable to provide the work.
    I love this for you because it shows that you didn't even read anything beyond that first sentence. Did I pick your nerve or something? I'll spoonfeed you my opinions on OP's request since you seem to have glossed over it to scold me or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    That being said, this request is kinda too minimal, imo. I can't really think of many mmos that let you swap hands and let you be lefthanded. Maybe if there's a new job, but it's unlikely. It's also something that you probably wouldn't even notice after a few minutes, so eh, can't say I really want this feature even for just slight RP favor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    They probably would just need to mirror the animations and tweak it some at most like another poster said, not really that hard but also totally unnecessary for something you're not gonna notice when you're 3mins into rouls.
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    You also say the same thing in your post, showing that you are aware that your provocation was nothing more than that - provocation - and therefore it is quite hypocritical to be surprised that someone would pick up on your taunt.
    I mean, sure? I only said "little indie devs" and then gave my actual opinion on OP's request, which I said that it wasn't necessary and I, myself, didn't want it, but hey - we've gotten useless features rather recently! Silverbane's initial comment was a bit provocative in itself, IMO, because they called out the entire forum on an attitude of wanting unreasonable things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    They are probably "provocating" because people are defending a company that puts a cash shop in a game that asks for a monthly fee. If you are going to get left handed animations I would not be shocked if they either say "lol, too costly" or "We are adding the option in the mogshop! Look forward to it!". It's not that hard to figure out, lol.
    I'm not even provoking anything or tried to lol, literally just matched Silverbane's energy with a comment. Did you guys even read the actual opinion I gave in regards to OP's request lmao. I don't even agree with adding left handed animations bcus it's something you wouldn't even notice after like a few minutes. Though if they added that feature to the mogstation that'd be lulzy. I personally want them to add instanced housing - but as a monthly fee like a retainer. :^)
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    Guys, instead of bickering about this could we instead purchase the Official FINAL FANTASY VII™ BRING ARTS™ Action Figure - CLOUD STRIFE Digital Plus Edition [ACTION FIGURE] as well as its NFT version to help out the struggling multibillion dollar company? Surely if we do that they'll start to reinvest into this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    I'm not even provoking anything or tried to lol, literally just matched Silverbane's energy with a comment. Did you guys even read the actual opinion I gave in regards to OP's request lmao. I don't even agree with adding left handed animations bcus it's something you wouldn't even notice after like a few minutes.
    Personally, I didn't think you were. I assumed you were having a giggle, lol. I was just answering their question. Besides, we all know SE is not a small indie studio. They are TWO small indie studios that got together one afternoon. :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Personally, I didn't think you were. I assumed you were having a giggle, lol. I was just answering their question. Besides, we all know SE is not a small indie studio. They are TWO small indie studios that got together one afternoon. :^)
    Yeah sorry, I didn't mean to come off as harsh towards you. :^) I was definitely having a giggle and was still that way with Gemina's response towards it lul and this weird outrage for daring to poke fun at SE. I personally believe that SE is two small indie studios that started in their parent's garage as an arcade game developer. They were living off of coins before they got their big break, Alex Kidd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Guys, instead of bickering about this could we instead purchase the Official FINAL FANTASY VII™ BRING ARTS™ Action Figure - CLOUD STRIFE Digital Plus Edition [ACTION FIGURE] as well as its NFT version to help out the struggling multibillion dollar company? Surely if we do that they'll start to reinvest into this game.
    Only if it comes with one or two orchestrion rolls - otherwise it ain't worth it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Silverbane's initial comment was a bit provocative in itself, IMO, because they called out the entire forum on an attitude of wanting unreasonable things.
    I did no such thing, but that fact that you think I did is a tacit admission that you fear that this is how the English forums are commonly perceived. And not without cause -- it's not like this is the most unreasonable request we've seen recently, is it? Or like unreasonable requests are particularly rare.

    Why you framed your response as an attack on the devs, on the other hand, I have no idea, but I doubt the motive is praiseworthy.

    [[relevant to that, did you know that some languages don't have ironic/dramatic understatement?]]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    You may want to look up the "little indie devs" meme - I'm not throwing shade at the devs, I'm throwing shade at SE lol. Before correcting me please read up on meme culture smh. It's pretty much akin to saying "SE is a little indie dev company pls understand".
    Sure. Or you can be mindful of what you post fully understanding that not everyone lives in a meme culture, which isn't a culture. You might want to look up what a culture is. Also, "SE is a little indie dev company" isn't any less condescending than your previous comment. Actually worse. Before it was just a small group of people working within a greedy corporation. Now you expanded it to an entire region of people. And changing out the word "widdle" with the actual word little really doesn't help your case either.

    They probably would just need to mirror the animations and tweak it some at most like another poster said, not really that hard but also totally unnecessary for something you're not gonna notice when you're 3mins into rouls.
    I haven't coded in years, and never worked with animations. From the outside looking in a 'mirror' or inversion process isn't as simple as reflecting an image, or blocks of code. The testing alone after the work is done on just one model would take an enormous amount of time, and that's just to make sure everything is up to par.

    It's also isn't really about the difficulty of making it happen so much as the time it would take. Time that can be spent towards far more beneficial and noticeable productivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I did no such thing, but that fact that you think I did is a tacit admission that you fear that this is how the English forums are commonly perceived. And not without cause -- it's not like this is the most unreasonable request we've seen recently, is it? Or like unreasonable requests are particularly rare.

    Why you framed your response as an attack on the devs, on the other hand, I have no idea, but I doubt the motive is praiseworthy.

    [[relevant to that, did you know that some languages don't have ironic/dramatic understatement?]]
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    This proposal is way too much time and money for way too little benefit --
    but that's not uncommon on these forums, is it?
    Girrrl, this is you lmao. All I was trying to say was our comments can both be construed of being a bit provocative but - I'll take the blame for that one since I didn't really mesh out my thoughts on it rather clearly other than a quick quip. I mean, what else was that quote for if not to poke fun at the english forums? I mean, I'll wait to see you explain how that quote has good intentions and you definitely didn't mean to be a bit sarcastic with the OF. :P

    Eh, yeah, unreasonable requests do pop up semi-frequently. I usually try to give the benefit of the doubt though in that some requests do have some merit to them - aka difficulty, housing, gendered sets, ect ect ect. This one - like I said again and again - is so minor that I don't even think it'd suit well for RP flavor.

    Again, I was poking right back at you with your station. And we are on the English forums - sure irony is lost, but hey, like I said towards Rao -- I was just having a bit of fun and explained myself on it - rather poorly and a little meanly. Again, "little indie devs" is literally towards SE, not the devs themselves lmao.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Sure. Or you can be mindful of what you post fully understanding that not everyone lives in a meme culture, which isn't a culture. You might want to look up what a culture is. Also, "SE is a little indie dev company" isn't any less condescending than your previous comment. Actually worse. Before it was just a small group of people working within a greedy corporation. Now you expanded it to an entire region of people. And changing out the word "widdle" with the actual word little really doesn't help your case either
    I mean, I still explained what I meant and that I wasn't blaming the devs, sorry you didn't get it. I understand I worded it somewhat poorly, but eh, for the comment I responded to I didn't figure it would matter so much. I assume you're just being pedantic or reading too much of literally a one sentence joke tbh. So sorry that I made a rude joke at big daddy SE - I'll never do it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I haven't coded in years, and never worked with animations. From the outside looking in a 'mirror' or inversion process isn't as simple as reflecting an image, or blocks of code. The testing alone after the work is done on just one model would take an enormous amount of time, and that's just to make sure everything is up to par.

    It's also isn't really about the difficulty of making it happen so much as the time it would take. Time that can be spent towards far more beneficial and noticeable productivity.
    Again, I have said myself it's completely unneeded and really minor for what the OP wants lol.
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    Last edited by Padudu; 08-09-2022 at 03:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Sure. Or you can be mindful of what you post fully understanding that not everyone lives in a meme culture, which isn't a culture.
    A bit culturally insensitive, aren't we? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    A bit culturally insensitive, aren't we? lol
    Be careful, you don't want to rattle the marginalized, oppressed group that is SE. :P
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