Since Deep Dungeon gonna come back in EW, let's revise the queuing system

[Momo_Kozuki]

As I read that EW will have another Deep Dungeon, here is some thoughts I have about the current system.



Deep dungeons would've been more fun to do with random people if it is not for the disastrous queuing system.


What's the problem with the queue system?


1) Extremely inflexible queue system. For PoTD, to do casual run where story matters from 1-100, you have 10 different layer of queuing: 1-10, 11-20, 21-30... to 91-100. To get a run of 30-40, you have to get 3 players who are also running a save of floor 30-40, which can take a while. You cannot even ask you friends to help if they don't have a save that accesses to floor 30-40.


HoH also share the same problem, but the story floors only 1-30, hence 3 layers, so it is easier to handle.



2) Players have zero incentive to re-run story floors with strangers. Once they get to floor 50-60 in PoTD and 20-30 in HoH, these are the floors they will live and die fighting to grind EXP/currency. Players who like doing a full run will either solo or have a static because they cannot go beyond story-related floors with random players.


3) Roundabout queue. To queue for PoTD/HoH, you have to visit specific NPCs. In case you have to cancel queuing then re-queue, you have to revisit the same NPC again. It is minor problem, but still a pain in the ass.


All of these problems result in extremely long queue for story-enjoyers if they are unlucky. It is also difficult to ask for help cuz how the queue layers complex things.

[Wolwosh]

90% of the game has already been made easy for story enjoyers ^^"
I don't think there needs to be any story to begin with myself, just a short quest to unlock it, that might fix issues.
I surely don't remember HoH's storyline.

[ZedxKayn]

90% of the game has already been made easy for story enjoyers ^^"
I don't think there needs to be any story to begin with myself, just a short quest to unlock it, that might fix issues.
I surely don't remember HoH's storyline.

I mean queueing is kind of an issue. Not finding people isn't "difficulty", it's a testament that the content is pretty dead. If it weren't for roulettes, much content would be like this, too.

A DD roulette would fix this, though.

[Imora]

Just don't require a hoh level first.

I can't do hoh because I need 50 potd and I can't solo that high. Queue for lower levels is atrocious. I need to farm aetherpool before I can go higher and survive and it's dumb.

I just want to skip 60-70 dungeon leveling damn it.

[Gararr]

Party finder a group of 4 and set aside 1-2 hours for 1-50.

[Packetdancer]

I can't do hoh because I need 50 potd and I can't solo that high. Queue for lower levels is atrocious. I need to farm aetherpool before I can go higher and survive and it's dumb.

I'd ask around in your FC or any social linkshells you're on or, heck, even just ask in /say standing around in Quarrymill. I ran into two folks in Quarrymill who had been trying to make it to 50 as a duo and failing a while back; I partied up with them for a fixed group, and we blasted through floors 1-50 in under two hours flat.

Now, to be fair, as someone who does run deep dungeons solo seriously (the Necromancer title will be mine, eventually...), I know the Palace really, really well. And my aetherpool is maxed. But still, 1-50 is demonstrably quickly doable with two folks with good aetherpool (I do Palace with a friend sometimes as a duo), or three folks where two have lousy aetherpool and one is maxed.

And those of us crazy enough to actually run deep dungeons routinely are usually willing to help.

[Imora]

No one wants to do below 50 be it's inefficient. It'd take That long just to form the group and I don't have time to spend four to give hours grinding out 50.

Just don't make a prior level requirement to unlock. Solved.

[ICountFrom0]

Quing for the deep dive without being in quarrymill would be possible, IF there was only one "save slot".
Think carefully about what that means giving up.

[Mika_Zahard]

I can't do hoh because I need 50 potd and I can't solo that high.

You dont need to solo. You can join with randoms from level 1 to layers up to level 50.

Maybe try traveling to a Crystal DC, wh ere there's people starting up on their PoTD, that way you dont have to grind for hours

[Limecat]

I just want them to remove the auto-fail on d/c if you're going in solo.