Houses - Make a Difference Campaign

[Jojoya]

Frequently, talking about our frustrations with the house purchase system here in the forums (or on reddit/other platforms) can feel like talking into a void (or echo chamber) where our opinions aren't getting heard by those who have the power to make meaningful change - the development team.

It's time to encourage everyone to leave their feedback in a place where it more likely to be seen - the Support Desk "Leave a Suggestion" tool. Perhaps if our frustrations and ideas were left directly in SE's "inbox", they'll get a better sense of what we're feeling.

Don't forget to tell your friends who are also frustrated but don't visit the forums to do the same.

I don't want to be guiding what feedback anyone leaves on the situation beyond this:

Please make certain to use the word "house" instead of "housing". I know some like to say "SE knows what I mean" but you need to remember that unless we're leaving our feedback in Japanese, it will be going through translators/interpreters. It's better to be careful with word choice to make your feelings clear. If you say that you're frustrated that you can't get housing and more needs to be added, they're going to look at your world (unless you're Balmung or Mateus) and think "but plenty of apartments are available, housing isn't a problem".

If you are on Balmung or Mateus, I'd recommend saying "houses and apartments" instead of "housing" as well.

Be specific about why you're frustrated. State your ideas about what is needed to fix the situation. Let's try to get it across to SE that this is a problem meaningful to a significant portion of the player base and that it needs to directly addressed instead of just having the purchase mechanics altered every other expansion.

[axetastic]

Really excellent point about the translation issue. I've already submitted feedback of my own - limit FC housing to one house per service account. Allow more items to be placed in smalls (especially out doors). And, if we're keeping this many FC wards, make more mediums, because most free companies want a larger shared space.

I think this is a good idea, and I hope it helps.

[SweetEquity]

If we go this route, ability to acquire Medium and Large FC houses should be tied to the size of your FC. Meaning, those with only 8 members certainly do not need anything larger than a small. And since 512 members is the limit. I suggest:
Less than 200 Members = a small FC should be fine
200 -400 - a medium
400+ a large.

edit: Because I think my response is missing the intended mark -

*If we go this route*, meaning, if we're going to go as far as limit 1 FC per server which I think is a really, super bad idea, then I'm willing to throw a stone on your sinking ship and make things bad for everyone with an equally horrendous idea *going forward*.

[axetastic]

If we go this route, ability to acquire Medium and Large FC houses should be tied to the size of your FC. Meaning, those with only 8 members certainly do not need anything larger than a small. And since 512 members is the limit. I suggest:
Less than 200 Members = a small FC should be fine
200 -400 - a medium
400+ a large.

Disagreements between us aside, I think you're probably right. I don't know if I agree with your number thresholds, but I do think the active member requirement for mediums and larges should probably be higher than it is.

[Yshtola_Cat]

If we go this route, ability to acquire Medium and Large FC houses should be tied to the size of your FC. Meaning, those with only 8 members certainly do not need anything larger than a small. And since 512 members is the limit. I suggest:
Less than 200 Members = a small FC should be fine
200 -400 - a medium
400+ a large.

You people never cease to impress when it comes to ridiculous suggestions.

You know there are hardly 1,000 FCs, active or not, with 200 players or more?

You know there are hardly 250 FCs, active or not, with 400 players or more?

No, you clearly don't. You go and tell the Japanese players you're in favor of nuking nearly 100% of their larger FC houses for reasons you've yet to explain.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Member reqs for FC houses will result in people being spammed invites even more than they currently are and dead accounts being kept in FC's. An FC with a large member count does NOT mean it is active. I have been in an FC with hundreds of members before and 90% of them were inactive. After that jebait I was sure that the next FC I joined was actually full of active players.

A small FC run by RPers can serve more people than a large FC full of dead members.

Other people might suggest a harsher minimum activity per month, this only serves to punish more casual FC's.

Increase the supply of houses vastly, FFXIV makes them so much money but they don't want to invest in expanding houses to serve a majority of their playerbase. I would be happy with one instanced ward per housing area, you can get your dream plot and can bump into plenty other people all living around you.

[SweetEquity]

You people never cease to impress when it comes to ridiculous suggestions.

You know there are hardly 1,000 FCs, active or not, with 200 players or more?

You know there are hardly 250 FCs, active or not, with 400 players or more?

No, you clearly don't. You go and tell the Japanese players you're in favor of nuking nearly 100% of their larger FC houses for reasons you've yet to explain.

You make ridiculous assumptions. I said nothing about this being retroactive.

[Sotaris]

If we go this route, ability to acquire Medium and Large FC houses should be tied to the size of your FC. Meaning, those with only 8 members certainly do not need anything larger than a small. And since 512 members is the limit. I suggest:
Less than 200 Members = a small FC should be fine
200 -400 - a medium
400+ a large.

That wouldn’t really solve anything but people mass invite people to hit that magic threshold. Rip any fc wanting to utilise the space for decorations and do cross breeding.

[axetastic]

If we go this route, ability to acquire Medium and Large FC houses should be tied to the size of your FC. Meaning, those with only 8 members certainly do not need anything larger than a small. And since 512 members is the limit. I suggest:
Less than 200 Members = a small FC should be fine
200 -400 - a medium
400+ a large.

I was thinking more along the lines of low double digits for anything above smalls.

Member reqs for FC houses will result in people being spammed invites even more than they currently are and dead accounts being kept in FC's.

There are already member reqs, though. FC housing is meant to be group housing - it makes more sense to require a bigger number of people to occupy a bigger space. I'm definitely not talking about 200, though.

But yeah, increase supply of houses is the best solution, above trying to artificially restrict demand.

[Silverbane]

I left them the suggestion that they ignore all the complaints about houses that result from this orchestrated astro-turfing and follow their own vision for the game, since it is that vision that has made FFXIV the successful game that it is and that I enjoy.