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  1. #21
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    Countess Flouncy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Op Is probably new and didnt know about FC "tags".. of course One FC can only own One house (except if It Is granfathered from old rules), but almost at 100% those "different" FCs with same tags belong to the same group or ppl.
    Is It allowed? Yes
    Is the system working as intended? Not so sure
    Yeah, I figure all the different FC's probably have some slight variation in spelling. It's clearly the same person, though (they responded to this thread, and their public discord names the specific player as the owner of the FC houses). I was just unaware multiple FC's could duplicate the same one of these -> <TAG>
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    Last edited by axetastic; 08-07-2022 at 05:50 AM.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetEquity View Post
    You visited the Discord which has a "Housing Enthusiast" section. (cute dog pic on your profile, btw) You were in the Discord with about 250 members listed. (or couldn't you figure out "role selection so you could actually see our very active group?) You were in the ward seeing at least 6 small properties STILL available but they're not good enough for you! You saw this and didn't bring this information here to tell a full story did you? You lied, the properties *mostly* have the same walls, but are not all the same furnishings, and not all the placards were identical. It's your right to come here and whine to the forums, but it's not okay to only tell part of the story while making false accusations. I wish SE would ban your rumor mongering. I will be submitting my harassment complaint to Discord.
    Whoa, whoa. Bro. Lot to unpack here.

    You've blatantly admitted to leaving 6 small properties in the ward available for the peons, because your FC owns the rest. I'm not commenting on whether or not those smalls are "good enough" for me. I'm just scanning for mediums to come on sale. I already have a house.

    As for the rest of your post, calling me a liar, being insulting, and threatening to report me... It's not a good look. It looks rather defensive.

    For the sake of curiousity and discussion, then, if everything you're doing is legit, could you explain to me what you ARE doing with the 13 houses? Your discord page names a single player as the "owner of FC houses." I didn't need to dig any deeper to find this, nor did I want to. It's written there, plain as day.

    As many have pointed out, maybe it was too far of me to assume RMT. I'll walk back that accusation. I've been wrong before. But there's got to be something going on with 13 empty houses. Other commenters' workshop theory seems legit so far. So, what is it?

    Thanks for the compliment on my dog pic - I assume you're not a terrible human being. But what you're doing is shady. And you can report me for harassment all day long on this one. It's shady to hoard so many houses given the scarcity, especially because you don't seem to be furnishing them/using them for the enjoyment of housing itself. Call me a liar on that if you want, but I saw what I saw.

    EDIT: I just realized that you threatened to report me to Discord for clicking on a public link you posted. Dude. C'mon now.
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    Last edited by axetastic; 08-07-2022 at 06:44 AM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Obtaining a company petition in Ul'dah, Limsa Lominsa, or Gridania.
    Filling out the petition with the company's name and tag.
    Get three signatures from three other player characters in the same server. (Level doesnt matter).
    Return the petition and pay a 15,000 gil registration fee. Et Voila.
    Wait 30 days.

    What a shocking exploit. OMFG. The Worlds End is near.
    you explained creating a guild, not obtaining a house with that guild (that you should not be able to do it if you have already one, like i explained a few posts above)
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Using loopholes = exploiting

    Read up on it in the ToS
    Idk if you just reaching or that naive to think that would count as a breaking exploit.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    you explained creating a guild, not obtaining a house with that guild (that you should not be able to do it if you have already one, like i explained a few posts above)
    What is there to explain?
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    1 FC can only own 1 house. Get your fact straight.
    I don't think I explained myself well enough with my first post. Yes, one FC can only own one house. What I believe happened here is:

    Player (or group of players) created several different FC's with slight variations in the name spelling. They tagged all of the FC's with the same identical tag.

    Every house in the ward has a note on it saying that the FC house is the "property of <THIS FC>"

    Additionally, the FC house notes have a discord link. In the discord, it is explicitly stated that a certain player owns the FC houses.

    So while, in the most technical sense, it might be 13 different FC's owning 13 houses... it's the same FC owning most of the ward. We can argue the technicalities of it being different FC's because one is, for example, FC-NAME and another is FC-NAME* and another is FC-NAME** and so on, but the reality and the intent here is clear - all the houses are claimed as the property of the same FC. And the FC in question made it all quite public, to boot.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by axetastic View Post
    Whoa, whoa. Bro. Lot to unpack here.

    You've blatantly admitted to leaving 6 small properties in the ward available for the peons, because your FC owns the rest. ...
    As for the rest of your post, calling me a liar, being insulting, and threatening to report me... It's not a good look. It looks rather defensive.

    ...

    1) I'm not admitting to leaving anything in the ward, I mean, I don't really have control over how fast they get gobbled up though *we've* certainly made an effort. And that is a *we*
    2) You might notice a glaring difference in names and I'm not just talking punctuation. The welcome message is much older than Empy, but thanks for pointing out the need to update.
    3) You're concerned about me insulting you after you called us scammers and RMTers? Defensive after you went that low? SURPRISE! You are that offensive so yeah, my response is somewhat on the defense. You did convey things that weren't true as in you painted the picture to suit your grievance. If you really had been to every house and every placard you might have detected that one tag isn't even the same FC name just same tag. Some of the outside deco is very different, and one of our neighbors added the otter walls joining in on our fun. But again, I think you fabricated your visit to every placard and interior.

    Something going on with 13 empty houses is that we really like to deco houses. Again, it was already stated that had you looked, you might have found a Housing Enthusiasts section of the Discord. We'll do that *inside* deco (and subs) when we we feel like it and certainly not on your schedule. Maybe we'll get started when we're done accumulating houses in the ward. One is open for you, it has a beautiful chamber; please enjoy. The rest have been locked, the discord address removed - you are no longer welcome.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetEquity View Post
    1) I'm not admitting to leaving anything in the ward, I mean, I don't really have control over how fast they get gobbled up though *we've* certainly made an effort. And that is a *we*
    2) You might notice a glaring difference in names and I'm not just talking punctuation. The welcome message is much older than Empy, but thanks for pointing out the need to update.
    3) You're concerned about me insulting you after you called us scammers and RMTers? Defensive after you went that low? SURPRISE! You are that offensive so yeah, my response is somewhat on the defense. You did convey things that weren't true as in you painted the picture to suit your grievance. If you really had been to every house and every placard you might have detected that one tag isn't even the same FC name just same tag. Some of the outside deco is very different, and one of our neighbors added the otter walls joining in on our fun. But again, I think you fabricated your visit to every placard and interior.

    Something going on with 13 empty houses is that we really like to deco houses. Again, it was already stated that had you looked, you might have found a Housing Enthusiasts section of the Discord. We'll do that *inside* deco (and subs) when we we feel like it and certainly not on your schedule. Maybe we'll get started when we're done accumulating houses in the ward. One is open for you, it has a beautiful chamber; please enjoy. The rest have been locked, the discord address removed - you are no longer welcome.
    You uh… you’re admitting to your FC buying more than one house in the ward. I don’t think I need to respond any more to you here.

    I don’t want to visit your discord.

    I never called you out by your FC name, by your character name, by your housing ward number, or by the public discord. I’ve been as respectful as possible. So I hope you take what I say to heart: what you’re doing is selfish, and it’s wrong. And you’ve clearly admitted guilt.

    I did call you a scammer. That’s because it’s scammy to take over the entire ward. I don’t know if you’re engaging in RMT or not. But whatever you’re doing, it doesn’t look good. It certainly doesn’t embody the community spirit of this game.

    You’re in violation of TOS by having your FC own more than one house. I guess good luck with your account and your houses now that you’ve admitted it all here.
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  9. #29
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    If a FC decides it's 13 members will get one house each using this new method and bunch them up, how is that wrong?

    Linkshells and discord replace FC chat which is no big deal, but otherwise, it's actually one less house than would be with 13 personals + one FC house on top.

    Seems like not only a good way to do it, but it frees up one house for other people.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 08-07-2022 at 10:09 AM.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    If a FC decides it's 13 members will get one house each using this new method and bunch them up, how is that wrong?

    Linkshells and discord replace FC chat which is no big deal, but otherwise, it's actually one less house than would be with 13 personals + one FC house on top.

    Seems like not only a good way to do it, but it frees up one house for other people.
    Because it’s one house per FC. Not one ward per FC. And they admitted all the houses belonged to the same person.
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