We need changes in Frontline

[Deveryn]

Job Adjustments in PvP and PvE were announced in the previous live letter.

During this last one, they did mention penalties for leaving would be more severe.

Frontline wasn't mentioned specifically in either one, but these things will surely impact it.

[Tlamila]

It's really depressing considering WHM lost a lot of healing ability only to wind up the same strength as pre-PVP rework. So I basically lost more then I gained in Frontlines.

Oh yeah, I used to be WHM main in pvp (unlike pve where I hate whm), because it was the most healing healer, and now it's the only healer I don't play in pvp, just like in pve, because while all healers lost a lot of healing WHM lost pretty much all of it. It's so sad.

[Oni_Akuma]

15 - 20% reduction in damage for melees.
35-50% reduction for Casters
30 - 40% for Rdm

Also a Chain CC Limit cap of TWO (2). Auto Fetterward for 6s after chain cc cap. Significantly balances a lot of lame play that could be involved.

[Kuroka]

NO. I already cant kill stuff with all my CDs and LB - buff rdm back to how it was.

My take stays, remove tanks and healers, then balance.


And remove that Pala-cover cheat.

[Mistress_Irika]

NO. I already cant kill stuff with all my CDs and LB - buff rdm back to how it was.

My take stays, remove tanks and healers, then balance.

You may as well make it all BLU pvp if you're going that route.

All jokes aside, are you willing to go back to everyone being deleted in 2 secs, especially with how limit break regenerates outside of combat?

[IDontPetLalas]

You may as well make it all BLU pvp if you're going that route.

All jokes aside, are you willing to go back to everyone being deleted in 2 secs, especially with how limit break regenerates outside of combat?

Thank you. Your suggestion of all BLU PVP would be far, far preferable to Kuroka's alternative - and it reflects that while important and fun, PVP is also more than , and is designed around, more than just "killing stuff".

[AnnRam]

Guard no longer reduces 99% incoming damage only protects you from CC.

Chain Saw 1 shot removed, give it an additional use ( 2 cs )
Reduce the CD off the normal / basic attacks

Purify doesn't remove heavy/slow if the target is mounted.

Huton doesn't increase your movement speed anymore , LB will not 1 shot the target affected by guard.

Chiten debuff will only affect the target you are currently facing/targeting.
Chiten uptime needs a better visual effect until expires instead of the initial blinks.


Poly WHM can be purified.


Pld/Drk LBs needs counter play, they shouldn't be invulnerable for 10 seconds without nothing to do, besides ignoring them, they are a huge pest in Seal Rock or Onsal.


Those are my dream changes. I haven't play Bard/Dnc/Ast but I swear they still have lots of problems.

[Llynethil]

You may as well make it all BLU pvp if you're going that route.

All jokes aside, are you willing to go back to everyone being deleted in 2 secs, especially with how limit break regenerates outside of combat?

I'll gladly give up all DR if it means ninja or monk can't 1v5 anymore and still get out but die in 3 seconds instead as you should when diving in like an idiot.

[Mistress_Irika]

I'll gladly give up all DR if it means ninja or monk can't 1v5 anymore and still get out but die in 3 seconds instead as you should when diving in like an idiot.

If you give up all forms of DR we're going to end up going back to melees being nonexistent, ninja being the only exception. Today's kit just doesn't support survival options for frontlines since it's more fast paced. Instead of just going in and dying in 3 secs like you're suggesting you'll end up dying before you can do any meaningful damage

If anything, I would like for the dr to be reduced, not removed.

[Azuri]

If you give up all forms of DR we're going to end up going back to melees being nonexistent, ninja being the only exception. Today's kit just doesn't support survival options for frontlines since it's more fast paced. Instead of just going in and dying in 3 secs like you're suggesting you'll end up dying before you can do any meaningful damage

If anything, I would like for the dr to be reduced, not removed.

Good. Remove DR. And add more tools similar to SMN LB. Absolutely devastating zerg busters designed to obliterate tightly stacked groups of lemmings.

Maybe then we can have proper PvP where "make the biggest blob of players and cruise around" isn't the go to strategy and smaller scale fights aren't a chore that usually ends in a stalemate until one of the aformentioned blobs arrives.