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  1. #1
    Player
    Aneshda's Avatar
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100

    We need changes in Frontline

    I was in the last 2 month in 540 Campaigns and in every single one was 1-3 Players doing nothing.
    They are Sitting in the Base, running around and leech their way to Level 90. The Rewards for every single Campaign is 100.000-870.000 Exp, depends on their Level, 500-1250 Wolf Marks, Tomestones, Rewards that can be bought with Wolf Marks and Trophy Crystals, Mounts for Achievements and all that for doing nothing.
    If you say in Alliance that Team A / B or C has someone afk in it, you get only answers like "chill" "you don't pay their sub", "snitch" and many other nice things. I see no point in fighting for those leechers and giving them free Rewards.
    We need changes, like remove Exp from Frontlines or give us a Report Button for afk leechers. If you report someone who is afk and he / she don't move in the next 90 seconds, he / she gets kicked and get a 8-24 hour debuff, so that he / she can't enter again Frontline for the debuff time.
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    Last edited by Aneshda; 08-05-2022 at 08:01 AM.
    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I honestly just started leaving matches when I see too many people in my team leech for their daily roulette. I'd rather take the 30 minute penalty and do something else than waste my time.

    Should this be a thing? No, but that has been the frontlines experience for like 3 expansions now so it's unlikely to change.
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    Nanne's Avatar
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Frontlines aren't really competitive so lose/win doesn't really matter Also there is a high chance same amount of people are AFK in other teams too so few players doing w/e doesn't really matter in a casual mode with 72 players. Also taking away the XP would seriously hurt the content because so many people only do PvP because of the daily XP bonus
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Frontlines aren't really competitive so lose/win doesn't really matter Also there is a high chance same amount of people are AFK in other teams too so few players doing w/e doesn't really matter in a casual mode with 72 players. Also taking away the XP would seriously hurt the content because so many people only do PvP because of the daily XP bonus
    Your argument that in Frontlines "winning or losing" doesn't matter is invalid, ranking up has little or nothing to do with enjoying whether someone wins or loses in PVP, just like someone who enters without the need for the exp bonus.

    I understand your point about if one person (for example) is AFK on one faction, the chances are that it applies toe each faction - however it could just as well happen that several people happen to be AFK in one faction, and none are AFK in another.

    In any case, it's demoralizing to many people to see someone AFK- which is likely why it is against the TOS, and why it does matter. No one says that someone who joins just for exp has to be very good, but there are expected to participate. It's also possible to see the logs in Frontline at the end of the match.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    IF they are hell bend on giving EX am all in for only giving the winner XP.... since the pvp changes its even less fun, everything other then CC is a mess... and then you see 1/4 the ppl doing 0 dmg or not healing once...
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    If you remove EXP from Frontline you may as well remove the gamemode entirely.
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    If you remove EXP from Frontline you may as well remove the gamemode entirely.


    Spoken like someone who hasn't been around very long.




    The cooldown is too long but every afk person vote kicked has gone through.
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Spoken like someone who hasn't been around very long.

    The cooldown is too long but every afk person vote kicked has gone through.
    Find me 72 people who will queue frontlines for barely any reward when CC matches average around 5 minutes?
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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Find me 72 people who will queue frontlines for barely any reward when CC matches average around 5 minutes?
    I wouldn’t worry that on Primal, CC is not everyone’s cup of tea
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    Gordon Geeko
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    What I really wish they did and which will never happen, is just make 1 Data center for PVP.

    So if you wanted to PVP you would just have to travel to that Data Center. That would solve so many queue pops problems and increase the player pool. Then you could remove the Frontlines XP and potentially have enough players queuing up.

    But nothing will happen because the games are pretty much always pretty decent on JP data centers, so we are stuck with the XP farmers.
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