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    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    My point is that if the MSQ doesn't teach you how to play your class, why does it matter if someone is allowed to skip it if they want to.
    People skipping msq are also skipping dungeons that would have taught them the mechanic they failed wasting other people time.
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    People skipping msq are also skipping dungeons that would have taught them the mechanic they failed wasting other people time.
    Forgetting that a lot of story dungeons can be done with trusts, soon to be all, and you can just have the NPCs carry you through them.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Um no....I hate to be the one to tell you this but anything after 70 cant be soloed. Mechanics require at least two.

    Try to solo Malikahs Well? Good LUCK with that.
    Depends on whether we're talking about synced or unsynced. Because unsynced you absolutely can, I just wasted 18 minutes for that.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Hard to tell if you are trolling here or not. Trusts exist. Trusts will soon exist for every MSQ dungeon to level cap. I imagine trials will follow soon after.
    By solo I mean ALONE. No trusts. Just you. Cant be done....well not yet. Maybe later with new tiers of gear it will be soloable..but we are talking 2 expacs from now.

    And that is an issue that Jojoya talked about with having specialized areas to teach you how to play your job when you boost it or just in general when you are playing a job.
    Agreed. I honestly dont know what the solution is...
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    By solo I mean ALONE. No trusts. Just you. Cant be done....well not yet. Maybe later with new tiers of gear it will be soloable..but we are talking 2 expacs from
    Certain classes definitely can. Personally, I solo Mt. Glug on my war just to knock out my Wonderous Tales, lol.
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    Capybara Friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    By solo I mean ALONE. No trusts. Just you. Cant be done....well not yet. Maybe later with new tiers of gear it will be soloable..but we are talking 2 expacs from now.


    Agreed. I honestly dont know what the solution is...
    Paglth'an has literally been soloed not long after it dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    People skipping msq are also skipping dungeons that would have taught them the mechanic they failed wasting other people time.
    And honestly that's why I will echo that ESO's approach to the story and multiplayer content would be good for the game.

    Stories are exclusively solo, dungeons are not involved in the main stories and instead each have a side quest that story enjoyers can do while running the dungeon if they want to. People who want to run dungeons for the gear oe multiplayer aspect aren't forced to do the main story or the side quest. Everybody wins.
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    Last edited by ZedxKayn; 08-08-2022 at 04:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Paglth'an has literally been soloed not long after it dropped
    Considering warrior can solo just about any EW dungeon I'm not exactly surprised. Nascent Flash in ShB was arguably just as powerful as Bloodwhetting, it just required ever so slightly more thought to maximize your self-healing. The hardest part is not being able to queue into max level dungeons solo.
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    I know I'm obnoxious on these forums but Vel really takes the cake.

    I don't like the MSQ. I've skipped it since the days of ARR. I don't have questions about who is who, why who is doing this, where we are, etc. Why? Because frankly, I don't care. I don't play XIV for the story. I come in to run dungeons, raids, trials, and roleplay. I come in to do player-involved content. Not participate in a visual novel. For those who love the story, I'm happy for y'all. But really, you're riding on a miniature pony so I don't get where you think the high horse comes from.
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    6.X has me quite concerned with the lack of longer lived content. We shouldn’t have to wait this long for things like Deep Dungeon to become available or Bozja-like zones. Having to wait until the expansion is halfway through for these things should never have been normalized.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    6.X has me quite concerned with the lack of longer lived content. We shouldn’t have to wait this long for things like Deep Dungeon to become available or Bozja-like zones. Having to wait until the expansion is halfway through for these things should never have been normalized.
    But it isn't like we're not getting anything at all. We haven't heard anything about an adventure zone so no one knows if that experiment is even returning or not. We are getting Criterion dungeons. And we have the normal combat related content that is always included, like 8 and 24 mans. These more experimental pieces of content don't always follow a set schedule. And we are getting non-combat experimental content like Island Sanctuary.
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