Extreme Roulette would be good for game

[LeafDreams]

Hello,
I'm just leaving a feedback\suggestion about Extreme duties in the Duty Finder

currently the extreme trials have some issues, for both regular players who queue for that and kinda for the mentors:

for the people who queue for those:
- way too long queue wait time.
- have some issues of mentor leaving right after entering.
- not being able to just play extreme to play extreme for fun, have to select 5 duties and wait for it instead of having a big selection which roulettes are.

for the mentors:
- too many people with no information of how extreme are and can't adapt to the sudden increase of difficulty, despite the mentors trying to teach (not so frequent)
- some mentors have cleared those unsynced, and when it actually joins a synced mode, don't have the proper info\preparations for the fight, might ending up just be dying along the non-mentor players.
- some just don't like being "unlucky" and get an extreme trial in the roulette.

the extreme trials in duty finder are not an issue just for the mentors who usually complain the most about it, is also for the non-mentor players.

I think an extreme trial roulette would help a lot with those issues, because:

- the new extreme trial players will have faster queue and get players who actually wants to play extreme trials with them.
- people who likes to play those for fun will have a way bigger pool of selection with the roulette, and also have faster queue.
- the mentors will less likely to end up in a extreme trial in the mentor roulette, making a safer place for those who don't like these.

and also will give one more daily duty for the players farm, not sure how big the reward would be fair, but it'll be nice one more thing to do.

this wouldn't totally make everyone happy 100%, because that's impossible in anything, but I think this would improve a lot the extreme trials for both sides of mentor and non-mentor players.

that's just a suggestion. not sure of how people would feel about it, but I thought a lot about this after playing a lot of extreme content in both PF and DF.

[AmpelioB]

I agree and they could add some older savage raids into that for the fun.

[ForteNightshade]

An Extreme Trial roulette would be completely dead within the first day of its existence. There simply isn't a worthwhile enough reward to encourage people to queue into that content where they fight and people they're with will be entirely random. Think about it. Currently, the highest amount of relevant tome rewards comes from Expert at 90. Even if they matched that. Why would people queue into it when dungeons and hunt trains will be significantly faster with a fraction of the effort?

Roulettes are essentially meant to be a daily chore; something you can easily hop into with zero preparation. Hence why you'll get all types of skill levels. And also why EXs often are a disaster in Mentor Roulette. They're simply not fights you do without a more committed group with a set goal in mind. It won't attract the people who want to try and get their first clear and it absolutely won't attract most who already have it.

Why not make the reward huge then you may ask? Why would I queue in with randoms when I could simply ask friends or my static and we knock it out as part of our weeklies? There's just no way to make it appealing.

[AmpelioB]

An Extreme Trial roulette would be completely dead within the first day of its existence. There simply isn't a worthwhile enough reward to encourage people to queue into that content where they fight and people they're with will be entirely random. Think about it. Currently, the highest amount of relevant tome rewards comes from Expert at 90.

1 cluster from materia X and 2 materia IX, 50 of newest tomestone. done. AdviNeed give 1 more of each cluster.

[ForteNightshade]

1 cluster from materia X and 2 materia IX, 50 of newest tomestone. done. AdviNeed give 1 more of each cluster.

Ahahaha

... you actually think that will motivate anyone? Materia are given out like candy nowadays. I could get more in twenty minutes from a hunt train alongside more than double the latest tomes (120 to be specific). All without putting in the slightest bit of effort since hunt trains are mindless.

50 tomes and 1/2 grade X materia is nothing. Hell, grade IXs aren't even 4k on the market board. For reference sake on just how easy they are to obtain. I have stacks of 200+ on every single IX and 100+ on the Xs without grinding a single second. That's all from simply doing the occasional around of roulettes. I haven't even done a hunt train since 6.1 dropped. To get people into an EX Trial roulette, you'd need like 300 tomes and 10+ materia. Even that I doubt would motivate many. And like I said, would prompt some to simply queue in as a full pre-made. Nobody will ever queue with DF randoms at the EX level.

[Knot_D]

Just queue Mentor Roulette, sometimes you get Sephirot or Sophia EX, sometimes you get Tsukuyomi EX (still not experiencing ShB EX on mentor roulette yet)

[AnnRam]

Savage or hard content it's never going to be added in a random matchmaking aka roulette.

Seriously nobody likes to wipe 20 times in a row just to figure out a mechanic, let's be honest for once , every hard/ Savage content demands a full strategy guide (YT) because that's how SE thinks hard stuff should be.

Everything will 1 shot you.
One party mistake = wipe.
One role not fulfilling properly = wipe

There is no a middle ground.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

It would cause insane fishing for roulettes, all trying to get something like Garuda.

30min Lockouts mean absolutely nothing to players anymore, there's like 10 daily's and weeklies you can still do. You could just queue for it before you log out ... or before you make dinner.

This will not help anyone, you will queue in and your party will already miss 3 ppl when you loading into an actual somewhat difficult ex fight, then you leave and go back to the end of queue.

And they will leave for good reason, after over 2000 Mentor roulettes, i can tell you that the rate of players reading chat is way to low, I'm not talking about skill or knowledge, just simply reading the chat and a "from the start" ex will require communication or ... Echo, its quite annoying to realise "yes, the ranged will now continue to shoot arrows at leviathans head, i can let them die or cripple my mp each round, but at 25% echo we wont need them so lets wipe 5 times and we are fine".

[Sotaris]

Isn’t extremes already in mentor roulette?

[Ravor]

Savage or hard content it's never going to be added in a random matchmaking aka roulette.

Seriously nobody likes to wipe 20 times in a row just to figure out a mechanic, let's be honest for once , every hard/ Savage content demands a full strategy guide (YT) because that's how SE thinks hard stuff should be.

Everything will 1 shot you.
One party mistake = wipe.
One role not fulfilling properly = wipe

There is no a middle ground.

This is not entirely true to some hard content, we died a lot in some hard content such as extreme/unreal, as long as the healer/raiser and tank survive, and still win it, mostly only in savage or ultimate that we really need almost perfect execution, there is middle ground in this game as long as you can ressurect, and most stuff in most extreme can be visually recognized, demanding full youtube guide is simply making it easier but not impossible, even if you wipe, you get echo anyway