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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It's sad. You can literally fight back against this, but snitching continues to come up as the response.
    You bet your ass I'm gonna snitch. I refuse to cheat, allow my teammates to cheat, or let enemy players cheat. And yes, using an exploit is cheating. If someone can just walk up to a point that's surrounded by 15+ enemy players and just take the point without resistance, that's not working as intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    You bet your ass I'm gonna snitch. I refuse to cheat, allow my teammates to cheat, or let enemy players cheat. And yes, using an exploit is cheating. If someone can just walk up to a point that's surrounded by 15+ enemy players and just take the point without resistance, that's not working as intended.
    Don't bother. Dude is just a contrarian on literally everything.

    You're right, of course.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    Don't bother. Dude is just a contrarian on literally everything.

    You're right, of course.
    Yeah, I just want people who are considering it that may be perusing the forums to see that there are people out there with a keen eye and a few spare minutes to rat them out. It's not worth whatever the consequences may be.
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    Bumping because this exploit is pissing me off.
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    I personally dont care much (i finally have all the achis and mounts, i play for fun and tomes now), but i dont understand this philosophy nowadays of "nobody can admit they are wrong".
    What i mean Is, Se (i think) acknoledged this Is a bug and a lot of ppl are taking advantage of It. This Is Se's fault so ppl are not getting blamed BUT, according to TOS, this should be punished.
    Since a lot of ppl are pissed about this (and i am too a Little cause It forces me to play Jobs i dont wanna play in pvp, hence read: imbalances issues) and they are right cause ppl are exploiting a "not intended" sinergy between their toolkit and the map, se should do this:
    1) admit publicly that this Is not intended to work like this (this point i dunno if It already fullfilled or Literally the other way around)
    2) treath to Punish whoever take advantage of It
    3) start to put in jail whoever does It. After 2 visits in jail you get a suspension.
    Be sure: After One visit in jail ppl Will stop altogether to do this. I have be trown in jail for saying "grow a brain" in Frontline After "i" was attacked First for trying to lead a match; not gonna touch the chat anymore. This ppl are not getting punished (like ppl that where abusing whm infinite afflatus bug) ONLY cause Se cant admit that they are having problems. I dont see why they cant go out and Say: "we are having issues (or not have time for now) to address X thing, but dont abuse It or you Will be punished"
    I Remember, at the time of FF11 that i read all the TOS there and there was a specific section about bugs and exploit that Said something like this: "if ppl find a bug or an exploit (like Monster giving infinite exp) and instead of reporting It they abuse It they Will severely punished".
    I dont get why they cant do smt like this here in ff14.
    I mean, tbh i know why they do this, they Just play dumb cause they dont wanna piss no One: they dont wanna piss off cheaters, they dont wanna piss off wintraders, they dont wanna piss off rmters, etc.
    But this Is starting to getting old to me.. a lot..
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    Punishment seems somewhat stupid. I mean for what? Using the ability? If not then what is your proof? I could get into a heated battle and use cover on someone to protect them but oh no! it's Onsal and then they capture! Now I get BANNED. At this point they could remove the ability alltogether.

    Of course the simple solution would be to make people under cover unable to capture points or interact with them and if someone now says that this is the same code as the Elixir than i would suggest SE to have code in place to distinguish between an ability of a player and an object on the floor. That can not be that hard. The flipside would be that this would probably make capture nodes on other FL maps impossible. Which in my book is a win.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Punishment seems somewhat stupid. I mean for what? Using the ability? If not then what is your proof? I could get into a heated battle and use cover on someone to protect them but oh no! it's Onsal and then they capture! Now I get BANNED. At this point they could remove the ability alltogether.
    Punishment for abusing a known bug. Exploiting bugs to your benefit is pretty clearly outlined in the TOS as punishable. It's an accepted bug on the bug report forums, so continuing to abuse it would be considered exploiting, no different than if someone discovered a duplication bug and abused it to make extra gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Punishment for abusing a known bug. Exploiting bugs to your benefit is pretty clearly outlined in the TOS as punishable. It's an accepted bug on the bug report forums, so continuing to abuse it would be considered exploiting, no different than if someone discovered a duplication bug and abused it to make extra gil.
    I literally dunno how to say it better.. if i exploit some other bug and get caught i'll get at least a warning.. dunno why this can not be done for this occurance..
    I know that maybe someone are ignorant about it (even if ignorance is not an excuse, i could go offending ppl left and right and use as excuse that i have never read TOS) and that is why i would not BANN!! ppl, but at least give them a warning that that is not acceptable >_>
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    Satoko Hojo
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    Yes! Please fix this bug, its absolutely ridiculous that its still in the game after being posted about FOUR MONTHS AGO! Absolute joke :/
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    Working as intended.
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