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  1. #171
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    I used to be quite invested in MSQ post SHB. But when EW dropped I had a sudden realisation that I cared about the game and the plot more than the people creating it did. So now... I cant say I particularly care anymore. 6.1 did me no favours because neither vritra or the void interest me, and it seemed like more of the same corny scion stuff.

    "You guys really care a lot don't you?"
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  2. #172
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    Xianthi Rongalla
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    So? I don't see how your post relates to the quote. XiRon was simply argueing that Zenos shouldn't be forgiven. Since ShB the writing teams seems to like redemption stories... or rather telling us that the mass murderers aren't that bad. I don't see any claim in his post that the villians should be removed, are less or equal as interesting as the protagonist or anything like that. Please explain.
    yeah im not arguing for this game to become a dating sim or animal crossing I was saying "Oh I hate this character and do not want them in my story anymore because they're a sack of crap".
    I loved Valens Van Varro because he was the only villain in 14 who doesnt get sad naruto flute music as he explains that he HAS to genocide the au ra because he had an upset tummy during childhood ;_; and then our character looks down and closes their eyes in sadness as he lays dying like every other FEEL BAD FOR MEEEE villain in this game.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    yeah im not arguing for this game to become a dating sim or animal crossing I was saying "Oh I hate this character and do not want them in my story anymore because they're a sack of crap".
    I loved Valens Van Varro because he was the only villain in 14 who doesnt get sad naruto flute music as he explains that he HAS to genocide the au ra because he had an upset tummy during childhood ;_; and then our character looks down and closes their eyes in sadness as he lays dying like every other FEEL BAD FOR MEEEE villain in this game.
    Ah, a fellow Valens Van Vámonos enjoyer.

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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    They didn't. YOU assume they don't like anything else. I think logically and come to the conclusion that they may like something besides the story if they are still subscribed. This is a MMO, not a TV show
    ah, but that's not me assuming.
    They didn't provide data hence they didn't make it to consideration.
    You, on the other hand, ASSUMED that they like other things because she's still subbed.
    AND as, she herself said, she bought tons of sub time because she ASSUMED she would like the coming content. Which apparently, she did not.
    Thinking logically means making a deduction out of data provided. Not an assumption of inexistent data, of which you did.
    Now, do you see what assuming things get you?
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It was clear to me very fast but they double-downed on it in the expansions. In Shadowbringers, we were finally teased as being a villain, but we weren't. But what makes it more clear than anything is actually the final boss music in dungeons and the quest battle music, which is hero music.
    In no way did they tease that the WoL would be a villain in ShB...The title warrior of light and warrior of darkness are a throwback reference to FF3. The warriors of dark fought against the cloud of darkness. It was obvious from the get go that ShB would be themed similarly.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    They didn't provide data hence they didn't make it to consideration.
    Guess they need the 9 retainers for the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    They didn't provide data hence they didn't make it to consideration.
    You, on the other hand, ASSUMED that they like other things because she's still subbed.
    I also alway sub to a service for 90 days when i like content that will probably last my 14 days or so... wait i don't!

    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    Thinking logically means making a deduction out of data provided. Not an assumption of inexistent data, of which you did.
    Now, do you see what assuming things get you?
    And deducing information from the absence of data. I hope you don't work in plane repairs!
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    Last edited by BRVV; 08-02-2022 at 10:14 PM.
    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Guess they need the 9 retainers for the story.
    correlation is not causation.
    Show me where they say they like everything BUT the things they posted.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    correlation is not causation.
    Show me where they say they like everything BUT the things they posted.
    Logical fallacy right there. I never claimed they LIKE EVERYTHING. Fight another straw man dude or learn to think. Whatever you fancy.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Logical fallacy right there. I never claimed they LIKE EVERYTHING. Fight another straw man dude or learn to think. Whatever you fancy.
    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    I think logically and come to the conclusion that they may like something besides the story if they are still subscribed. This is a MMO, not a TV show
    "I said may"
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    "I said may"
    also "something" not "everything". Learn to read
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    Last edited by BRVV; 08-02-2022 at 10:27 PM.
    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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