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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Endwalker was fantastic. The forums are a very small minority of complainers. The story is not questionable because you have that opinion. I know it is a shocker. This is a part of life you will have to come to grips with as you grow into maturity.
    Any story is capable of being subject to questioning, analysis, and a variety of interpretations. The forums are indeed one of the lesser-used sites by the playerbase, but it is not the only place where in-depth discussions of the story are taking place. One thing that is certain is that there was not enough material to generate over 600 page threads during Stormblood, which is the only other expansion to have had a controversial reception by the community when it comes to story and writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Any story is capable of being subject to questioning, analysis, and a variety of interpretations. The forums are indeed one of the lesser-used sites by the playerbase, but it is not the only place where in-depth discussions of the story are taking place. One thing that is certain is that there was not enough material to generate over 600 page threads during Stormblood, which is the only other expansion to have had a controversial reception by the community when it comes to story and writing.
    Any story is subject to that - the issue comes more when people declare themselves the ultimate objective arbiters of what is "good" or "bad" rather than acknowledging that they're expressing opinions. I'll disagree that Stormblood was the "only" other expansion to have a controversial reception...honestly, the forums have had negativity like this about every expansion.

    In terms of the "600 page thread" (I only know of one that exists), I see it as a matter of two things:

    1.) Endwalker has the largest overall playerbase of any expansion. We have the most people actively playing the game during this xpac than during any other. When you have significantly more people playing, a larger pure number of them will make their way over to the forums (even if it's still just a minuscule % of players), which in turn means threads created here will likely be significantly larger.

    2.) Endwalker is loved by many more people, particularly compared to Stormblood. An echo chamber of negativity can only sustain itself for so long on its own - it needs an injection of disagreement and debate to keep going. There's so many people who enjoy EW that, again, you find more of them making their way over here and offering their praise. It isn't 600 pages of negativity. Much of it is back-and-forth debating and, yes, trolling between people who were disappointed in EW and people who immensely enjoyed it. The main difference between EW and SB is that there are more people who found EW thoroughly enjoyable and are contributing to the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Endwalker was fantastic. The forums are a very small minority of complainers. The story is not questionable because you have that opinion. I know it is a shocker. This is a part of life you will have to come to grips with as you grow into maturity.
    Obvious troll bait. Grow up
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Endwalker was fantastic. The forums are a very small minority of complainers. The story is not questionable because you have that opinion. I know it is a shocker. This is a part of life you will have to come to grips with as you grow into maturity.
    That's your opinion but not everyone has to share it.
    If you liked Endwalker, then it's good for you.
    Maybe SE just needs players like you and no more players criticizing the game.
    How do you think a game should change, how should it grow?
    When every player only praises SE in the highest tones for a rather poor story?
    Imagine if all those who criticize the game were gone... how empty would this world be?
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    Last edited by Aneshda; 08-04-2022 at 12:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    That's your opinion but not everyone has to share it.
    If you liked Endwalker, then it's good for you.
    Maybe SE just needs players like you and no more players criticizing the game.
    How do you think a game should change, how should it grow?
    When every player only praises SE in the highest tones for a rather poor story?
    You could say the same about the negative commentary. Few if any of the negative comments actually address this idea of how to grow. It's just complaining for the sake of doing so.
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    Right now SE is not reading this all. They care only about Twitter, Reddit and other Social Media Plattfforms. Should this Forum not be their Number 1 Spot for everything that relates to this Game?

    In every Liveletter Yoshi is reading the Chat, watching Twitter. God forbid those who dares to ask something about the Story of Endwalker. All those People get, is only a rolling eye and a bored moan from Yoshi.

    Is this how this Game could grow or even change, to make it better? Think about it.
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    Last edited by Aneshda; 08-04-2022 at 12:47 AM.
    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Right now SE is not reading this all. They care only about Twitter, Reddit and other Social Media Plattfforms. Should this Forum not be their Number 1 Spot for everything that relates to this Game?

    In every Liveletter Yoshi is reading the Chat, watching Twitter. God forbid those who dares to ask something about the Story of Endwalker. All those People get, is only a rolling eye and a bored moan from Yoshi.

    Is this how this Game could grow or even change, to make it better? Think about it.
    This person has the right attitude. It's obvious the devs are catering to the twitter/reddit/"influencers" so any suggestion would fall on deaf ears unless said people are on board on it as well. At this point, enjoy the descent of yet another MMO, lol.
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