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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    This demotion feature is great. If you fall down from Crystal and can't manage to climb back up, did you really deserve to be there ? And if you quit because you're frustrated that you keep de-ranking, were you really made for the Top 100 grind ?

    Who knows, maybe I'll go from Crystal to Platinum one day, if that happens I'll adjust, learn some strategies, play new jobs, try to diff a weak player. That's how it should be in ranked PVP.

    As long as lower rank queues keep popping and give you a chance to climb back up. I'm curious what this "dynamic matchmaking" will look like in practice, maybe it will fix the issue of low rank queues dying.
    No, this is a bad idea. Because luck is a big role in CC, since you have no control over your allies. Imagine that somebody who is bad at CC gets lucky enough to where they get 4 competent allies, and thus get on a winning streak and end up in Crystal. Did THEY deserve to be there? No, of course not, they got carried. Now imagine the reverse, somebody good enough to get into Crystal is unlucky enough to get multiple bad players like that over and over again. They go from the cusp of Crystal all the way back down to the bottom of Platinum. That's not their fault, they're getting horribly unlucky with matchmaking. They deserve to be at Crystal, but got screwed by RNG. THAT is why people hate this sort of thing.

    Hell, I'm purposefully trying to get all the way to Crystal right now so when the patch comes, I never have to do ranked again because I NEVER want to deal with that nonsense, as it's already infuriating enough to go from the top of a rank to the bottom of the risers. Dropping ranks is something I never want to deal with in CC, and it is very likely going to kill ranked for a lot of players, which results in less players, which results in less matches, which leads to ranked CC going the way of Feast, a dead PvP mode.
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    GordonGeeko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post

    Hell, I'm purposefully trying to get all the way to Crystal right now so when the patch comes, I never have to do ranked again because I NEVER want to deal with that nonsense,
    You don't have to go through that trouble. Everyone's gonna start on Bronze on S3 no matter where you were at the end of season 2.

    Edit: I think I misinterpreted what you meant. If you mean getting to Crystal just this one time then sure. I thought you wanted to not start too low on S3.
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    No, this is a bad idea. Because luck is a big role in CC, since you have no control over your allies. Imagine that somebody who is bad at CC gets lucky enough to where they get 4 competent allies, and thus get on a winning streak and end up in Crystal. Did THEY deserve to be there? No, of course not, they got carried. Now imagine the reverse, somebody good enough to get into Crystal is unlucky enough to get multiple bad players like that over and over again. They go from the cusp of Crystal all the way back down to the bottom of Platinum. That's not their fault, they're getting horribly unlucky with matchmaking. They deserve to be at Crystal, but got screwed by RNG. THAT is why people hate this sort of thing.

    Hell, I'm purposefully trying to get all the way to Crystal right now so when the patch comes, I never have to do ranked again because I NEVER want to deal with that nonsense, as it's already infuriating enough to go from the top of a rank to the bottom of the risers. Dropping ranks is something I never want to deal with in CC, and it is very likely going to kill ranked for a lot of players, which results in less players, which results in less matches, which leads to ranked CC going the way of Feast, a dead PvP mode.
    Even with teammate randomness all of the S1 top players are back where they were. Getting bad teammates or having to play vs someones alts will slow the progress down, that's all it does.

    This season I got very late start due the mess with the server transfers, it took me 50 some wins to get back there because I kept facing another people who got their rank reset from transfers, so we kept killing each others streaks occasionally. Previously I did it in something like 39 during late season on different DC when aside from rare alt the opponents were fairly easy most of the time.

    Deranking means very little if you care for the end of season rewards as with 6.2 your highest achieved rank will count regardless, the most important thing is that it keep the complete dead weights out instead of having them hang in Crystal 0 rating and sabotaging games for the highest rated players because the game will try to even out the team ratings and keeps pushing them or Diamond players into 3k+ rating people's teams.

    As for ranks themselves, Crystal is completely meaningless with the amount of players that got it in Season 1. Someone posted the public achievement data and about half of the players who even played Ranked beyond the very first unranked tier got Crystal with the remainders getting equal split each.
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