MSQ Difficulty and Exclusion

[Eraden]

Have only one working hand, cleared all of savage this tier. I don't think it's really fair to lump all people who have a disability into your argument of not wanting content to get more difficult.

Fine strawman argument you are making there. I said nothing of what other people who may be elderly or disabled, want. I said that some who are elderly and/or disabled would be excluded. Primarily because some of them would not be able to physically do the harder content. If you want an example of one such person, that would be me. I am elderly and have Parkinson's disease.

[Supersnow845]

Have only one working hand, cleared all of savage this tier. I don't think it's really fair to lump all people who have a disability into your argument of not wanting content to get more difficult.

People absolutely love to deflect the subset of population who is actively bad by choice to people with disabilities or age, it’s a common situation on the OF’s and it’s frankly disgusting

[Mosha]

Fine strawman argument you are making there. I said nothing of what other people who may be elderly or disabled, want. I said that some who are elderly and/or disabled would be excluded. Primarily because some of them would not be able to physically do the harder content. If you want an example of one such person, that would be me. I am elderly and have Parkinson's disease.

But it's the same with people who are fully abled or not elderly, some people can whereas others can't. my issue is that you're using it to try and validate your argument over others.

[Eraden]

People absolutely love to deflect the subset of population who is actively had by choice to people with disabilities or age, it’s a common situation on the OF’s and it’s frankly disgusting

First, what on Earth are you trying to say? Your post is making no sense. Can you tidy up the sentence a little? Second, you are responding to a post that was making a strawman argument. Read my response to that post for what I ACTUALLY said and meant.

[Mosha]

at the end of the day, MSQ content should neither be set at the lowest nor highest common denominator, got to find that sweet spot. all what I would like is content to punish me for not respecting it.

[Eraden]

But it's the same with people who are fully abled or not elderly, some people can whereas others can't. my issue is that you're using it to try and validate your argument over others.

What an ridiculous conclusion that is. It is a FACT that some people will be excluded if the MSQ content is made harder. For some of us, the MSQ content is already at our limits. People WILL be excluded if the content is made harder. And your argument is....that's good? As long as you get your challenging content it's ok to exclude some of us? What a selfish person you are! There is already challenging content for you. Leave the MSQs alone so that more of us can play.

[Supersnow845]

First, what on Earth are you trying to say? Your post is making no sense. Can you tidy up the sentence a little? Second, you are responding to a post that was making a strawman argument. Read my response to that post for what I ACTUALLY said and meant.

No you are 100% deflecting away from people who are actively bad at this game by hiding them behind people with disabilities or age and the other poster is calling you out for it, people with said disabilities don’t want you to defend them for them, especially when a lot of them exceed what you believe they are capable of

Don’t use sweeping statements about groups we generally empathise with even if you are part of them in an attempt to deflect away from legit problems associated with other groups of people

[Semirhage]

Yes yes, the mythical blind quadriplegic 150-year-old Maasai grandmother with a 5kbps internet connection for whom all MSQ content must be designed around.

I've never met a disabled person who plays this game and claims the MSQ would be impossible if they added a sprinkle of gameplay engagement.

I have encountered a whole lot of Forum Princesses too lazy to countenance actual gameplay hiding behind their fictional 140 year old grandfather because nothing must -ever- cause failure or hold up a mirror to their own laziness.

[Supersnow845]

What an ridiculous conclusion that is. It is a FACT that some people will be excluded if the MSQ content is made harder. For some of us, the MSQ content is already at our limits. People WILL be excluded if the content is made harder. And your argument is....that's good? As long as you get your challenging content it's ok to exclude some of us? What a selfish person you are! There is already challenging content for you. Leave the MSQs alone so that more of us can play.

I’m sorry but if the MSQ is pushing you to your legit limits maybe an MMO is not the type of genre for you, the MSQ is 90% of the games core content making it as simple as it is and even simpler is being selfish on the other end

[aveyond-dreams]

at the end of the day, MSQ content should neither be set at the lowest nor highest common denominator, got to find that sweet spot. all what I would like is content to punish me for not respecting it.

This is basically how I feel as well.