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    Housing in Materia - after changes to FC only plots

    Hi, We currently have an FC house that was originally in an FC only ward.

    I understand that they opened the plots up for Private buys to buy, which is great. We had some fc members buy plots and move in. The ward is like 90% empty even after the private buy additions.

    We wanted to upgrade out Medium plot to the nearby Large plot that has been empty since release. However it is now marked as private buyers only? It has taken us a while to save up the money to get the larger plot and now we cant get it.

    Does this private only and FC only buying rotate every week/lottery period? I cant relocate to an FC only ward because the fc members who bought to be around the FC house cant buy there. Why didn't they just make the plots available for both private and FC buyers when there are SO SO many plots available in all the wards. Do we need to now wait until they remove the private buys only restricitons?

    Thanks.
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    Probably won’t happen as SE seem be of the opinion to keep them separated. I’m guessing it’s a RMT countermeasure.
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    You could transfer to another Fc ward if there are large plots available. Last two large plots sold in my ward last lotto going to private buyers we were once FC only. This was on Sophia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedai84 View Post
    Hi, We currently have an FC house that was originally in an FC only ward.

    I understand that they opened the plots up for Private buys to buy, which is great. We had some fc members buy plots and move in. The ward is like 90% empty even after the private buy additions.

    We wanted to upgrade out Medium plot to the nearby Large plot that has been empty since release. However it is now marked as private buyers only? It has taken us a while to save up the money to get the larger plot and now we cant get it.

    Does this private only and FC only buying rotate every week/lottery period? I cant relocate to an FC only ward because the fc members who bought to be around the FC house cant buy there. Why didn't they just make the plots available for both private and FC buyers when there are SO SO many plots available in all the wards. Do we need to now wait until they remove the private buys only restricitons?

    Thanks.
    SE is going to adjust ward designation when they feel it's necessary. There's no set schedule for when it might happen other than SE said it is most likely to occur with major patch releases. They may not hold firmly to that depending on how things go over time.

    At this point, you would need to find a large available in a FC ward if you want to upgrade the FC house or hope that no one buys the large in your current ward before the ward is changed back to FC. If you did find one in another ward and moved, your FC members wouldn't be able to follow with their personal houses. That will probably continue to be a problem in the future if the goal is to have member houses in the same ward with the FC.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea_ View Post
    Probably won’t happen as SE seem be of the opinion to keep them separated. I’m guessing it’s a RMT countermeasure.
    I don't think it has anything to do with RMT. I think the goal is to make certain that there are always some houses available for FCs. If all wards fill up on a given world so there is nothing left for FCs, SE might well switch all wards to FC purchase only until such time as there are enough available plots that some of the wards can be set aside for personal purchase.

    Once SE starts changing FC/personal ward designations on a per world basis, it will be interesting to see how they handle Balmung and Mateus. Both worlds are effectively sold out with just a few random houses currently available and everything getting heavy bidding.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You could transfer to another Fc ward if there are large plots available. Last two large plots sold in my ward last lotto going to private buyers we were once FC only. This was on Sophia.
    But their FC members with personal houses in the ward wouldn't be able to transfer them to be in the same ward with the FC house.
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    Yeah, sadly all statements by SE that they would adjust the mix on a server-by-server basis never came to be actually true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yeah, sadly all statements by SE that they would adjust the mix on a server-by-server basis never came to be actually true.
    Like how they promised apartments could be dynamically scaled when all was bought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yeah, sadly all statements by SE that they would adjust the mix on a server-by-server basis never came to be actually true.
    Technically it has happened now. The 4 new EU worlds are split 1-12 FC and 13-24 personal. The wards on all other worlds are 1-9 FC and 10-24 personal.

    We're still fairly early in the system's history. I imagine we'll see the first individual deviations when 6.2 is released and they have to decide what to do about Balmung and Mateus but most worlds will probably continue to have the same splits for several months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea_ View Post
    Like how they promised apartments could be dynamically scaled when all was bought.
    They have expanded them many many many times over the years. Unlike every other mmo ever ff14 has continued to grow its customer base as it got older. I truly doubt back when they said they could add apartments as needed they ever imagined that they would grow their customer base in the way that they have.

    At this point if your on an overcrowded server that has no apartments left and you really want one then move to a new server. It looks very much like SE's response to lack of housing for the foreseeable future is going to be new servers. I'd strongly suggest that those who are without housing move to new servers when possible or prepare to do without for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    SE is going to adjust ward designation when they feel it's necessary. There's no set schedule for when it might happen other than SE said it is most likely to occur with major patch releases. They may not hold firmly to that depending on how things go over time.

    At this point, you would need to find a large available in a FC ward if you want to upgrade the FC house or hope that no one buys the large in your current ward before the ward is changed back to FC. If you did find one in another ward and moved, your FC members wouldn't be able to follow with their personal houses. That will probably continue to be a problem in the future if the goal is to have member houses in the same ward with the FC.




    I don't think it has anything to do with RMT. I think the goal is to make certain that there are always some houses available for FCs. If all wards fill up on a given world so there is nothing left for FCs, SE might well switch all wards to FC purchase only until such time as there are enough available plots that some of the wards can be set aside for personal purchase.

    Once SE starts changing FC/personal ward designations on a per world basis, it will be interesting to see how they handle Balmung and Mateus. Both worlds are effectively sold out with just a few random houses currently available and everything getting heavy bidding.


    But their FC members with personal houses in the ward wouldn't be able to transfer them to be in the same ward with the FC house.

    Yeah we would liike to have the personal house close to the FC house. There are SO SO SO many plots in every ward on my server because it is fairly low population. it is just silly to restrict the wards to FC or private. They should be available to both. I don't think any of the wards in any housing area apart from maybe Shirogane are even remotely full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladehawk View Post
    They have expanded them many many many times over the years. Unlike every other mmo ever ff14 has continued to grow its customer base as it got older. I truly doubt back when they said they could add apartments as needed they ever imagined that they would grow their customer base in the way that they have.

    At this point if your on an overcrowded server that has no apartments left and you really want one then move to a new server. It looks very much like SE's response to lack of housing for the foreseeable future is going to be new servers. I'd strongly suggest that those who are without housing move to new servers when possible or prepare to do without for a long time.
    Expanded as a result they added more housing wards yes. That’s not what they said originally.
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