Will the next extension be the last one ?

[HanWenqing]

I mean in FF11 the max level was 99, I wonder if we will be level 100 in FF14 but I'm almost convinced that we won't go beyond when you think about it FF14 has indeed aged it wouldn't surprise me that we soon have an FF17 as a new mmorpg from SE everything indicates that the end of FF14 is near despite Yoshi's words

I'm sure we won't be able to visit all the worlds, regarding the subject of the next expansion I really have in mind the advanced world, I feel that the next expansion will be about an invasion of this people or something like that

[Curisu]

No, 10 more years are confirmed.
Every 2,5 years a new expansion makes a total of at least 4 more.

Edit.
Also, they are working already on the next expansion.
And they definitely have plans and resources confirmed for the one after.

The last two could be questionable due to possible unexpected circumstances.

[Syln]

No, 10 more years are confirmed.
Every 2,5 years a new expansion makes a total of at least 4 more.

Edit.
Also, they are working already on the next expansion.
And they definitely have plans and resources confirmed for the one after.

The last two could be questionable due to possible unexpected circumstances.

Let's update this, it's 9 years and less than a half now :3

Time is flying away really fast !

[Jeeqbit]

Imagine that there was a game with a growing amount of customers, producing even more profit every 2 years, that suddenly decided to stop making content and lose all of its customers, declaring the next expansion the last. If you really believe they would stop when the active population is now in the millions, then the logic you are using is incomplete.

If level bloat is a problem, I expect they will either stop bothering with levels and focus on horizontal progression or do a level squish (probably reduce ARR to level 30).

[Izar_Chillen]

or do a level squish (probably reduce ARR to level 30).

From a design point of view this is the most likely possibility

[dspguy]

Imagine that there was a game with a growing amount of customers, producing even more profit every 2 years, that suddenly decided to stop making content and lose all of its customers, declaring the next expansion the last. If you really believe they would stop when the active population is now in the millions, then the logic you are using is incomplete.

If level bloat is a problem, I expect they will either stop bothering with levels and focus on horizontal progression or do a level squish (probably reduce ARR to level 30).

For all the reasons you said... the company won't just end the game or the release of new content over an arbitrary thing such as passing level 100 in the future. It is just a number. The same way that item level is just a number. Does it really matter? They'll do another stat squish so we won't have 100,000 critical hit or 1,000,000 HP. That's about all they need to do.

As for FFXI, I think raising the level cap was a mistake. I also think that keeping that cap at 75 for so long was a mistake. Seems like a contradiction. However, keep in mind the history of the game.

- First level cap was 50.
- Major patches upped it to 70 over the course of a year or so
- Rise of the Zilart came out and raised it 75
- Then it stayed at 75 for seven years

That's the problem. They raised it incrementally... then bam... plateaued for 7 years. Then they opened the flood gates to 100. There was an entire generation of players (7 years worth - longer than many players even stick with a single MMO) that spent countless hours min/maxing all their gear for level 75 characters. Then, in one fell non-expansion swoop (Abyssea, which were more like DLC mini-content releases), they blew all that away. I was gone before the cap went up. Not because I was done with being stuck at 75. But because I was trying out some other game (FFXIV 1.0).

As for FFXIV, they won't let some arbitrary number stop them. If they think it is a big deal, they'll milk two more expansions by only raising the level cap by 5 each time and doubling the effort for reach level.

[Neoyoshi]

Imagine that there was a game with a growing amount of customers, producing even more profit every 2 years, that suddenly decided to stop making content and lose all of its customers, declaring the next expansion the last. If you really believe they would stop when the active population is now in the millions, then the logic you are using is incomplete.

If level bloat is a problem, I expect they will either stop bothering with levels and focus on horizontal progression or do a level squish (probably reduce ARR to level 30).

I prefer just a completely different type of progression eventually that doesn't include character levels; because the whole level squish thing feels lazy to me. Numbers squish i get, that does have to happen, it's happened already when we got Endwalker- i just don't want past content to become possibly trivialized even more then it already is.

Blizzard and World of Warcraft went down a certain route to combat numbers/level bloat, i feel like this dev team can do better, i feel like they should be able to do better.

[Kazhar]

The graphics update would be a huge waste of resources if they don't intend to continue the game beyond 7.0

[Naoki34]

I mean in FF11 the max level was 99, I wonder if we will be level 100 in FF14 but I'm almost convinced that we won't go beyond when you think about it FF14 has indeed aged it wouldn't surprise me that we soon have an FF17 as a new mmorpg from SE everything indicates that the end of FF14 is near despite Yoshi's words

I'm sure we won't be able to visit all the worlds, regarding the subject of the next expansion I really have in mind the advanced world, I feel that the next expansion will be about an invasion of this people or something like that

Yoshi-P had said that it was the end of a cycle with Endwalker (which started in ARR) and that a new one starts with the next expansion.

A successful MMORPG will continue, it makes so much money. And FFXIV is probably one of the most successful ones, as some are dying.

On WoW, I think it was level 120 in Shadowland then they compressed it to 60.
On ESO, it's level 50 but then starts champion levels that go way up, I've seen players with champion 2000+.

Given the record sales of Endwalker, no reason to stop. It even focuses more on MMOs than single player versions.

It's basically a Ps3 MMO, but now it's also on Ps5 and probably the sequel.

[LeonKeyh]

I'd say that it may be likely that they'll do a level squish/new player experience in 8.0 (7.0 is probably a little too soon).

i.e. Drop the max level back down to 50-60 and make it so that people can start new characters with the 7.0 story at level 1 or 30 with a "tutorial" setting up the story from 6.X and introducing players to some of the more "advanced" things. But, that would also cut into their skip potion revenue, so maybe not. It's definitely something that is reaching a boiling point though and something is going to need to be done.