Can Someone Help Me Understand The Endgame

[Harlot]

I am a WoW refuge, and back in the day when i was playing WoW they were strict things to do when it comes to endgame. Like i had a daily checklist included doing x dungeon and x raid etc. But when it comes to FFXIV i couldn't find a decent end game guide. All their saying is there is that raid you can do, and there is that trial you can do but they are not saying when or why should i do them.

And the other thing i really couldn't put my mind to it is this. Correct me if i am wrong but seems like when it comes to a player like me who enjoys doing raids, dungeons and trials there is only 2 option you are either a casual player or hardcore player. Like the normal raids are too easy doesn't reward you enough and when you got to some point you have to jump from easy trial like normal trial to a really hard trial like extreme trials. There is nothing between. I am not a hardcore player, i don't wanna do extremes but i don't wanna do anything but raiding, trials and dungeons. So in order to upgrade my ilevel i have to do extreme after i am done with normals then i have to do savages? I don't have time or skill for either of those things.

Like in WoW you start with looking for raids, then normal, then hard and thats where i stop cause like i said i am not skilled enough for mythic raids and i don't have time for it as well. But in FFXIV i can't do that cause after i am done with normal raiding it sends me straight to the mythic hard content like extremes. And even if i am able to do extremes you only need to do them few times until you reach certain ilevel then all you have left with is savages which is equal to mythics or even worse. So please help me if i am missing something here.

Edit: There is one thing that i wanna make clear is that. As someone who played WoW over 6 years i can easily say extremes trials are not equal to normal raids in WoW. They are so much more harder, i would say they are equal to heroic or even mythic raids. And there is one thing you guys need to understand is that even if i learn all of the mechanics there will always be people who doesn't know them as much as i do. And the result will still be failiure. And as someone who doesn't have guild or friends in game i don't have time to regroup over and over again.

[KageTokage]

Extremes are really not anywhere near mythic level WoW raids.

For better or worse XIV's encounters are heavily scripted, meaning you can memorize exactly what the boss is going to be doing at a specific time in a fight. What seems brain-meltingly difficult at first glance can quickly become second nature with the aid of guides or experienced players to pick it apart and explain what's going on.

[Harlot]

Yeah maybe you are right, maybe its not mythic level but its not heroic raid level as well. Heroics are so much more easier then extremes in my opinion. And even if extremes are easier you only do them few times until you reach certain ilevel and then all you have left is savages which is equal to mythic raiding.

[Veranolth]

I wouldn't try and approach FFXIV's endgame like it is WoW.

[Lustre]

Youre correct in thinking that difficulty generally goes Normal>Extreme>Savage>Ultimate, but its worth noting that a lot of these terms make them seem harder than they really are. Extreme is midcore content, and would probably be equivalent with normal or heroic raid difficulty in wow. Normal content here is like LFR in wow. I do believe that the jump from current normal content to current Extreme content is way way too big of a jump for most people who aren't experienced with MMOs, but that's a topic for another day lol

if you're looking for a treadmill to run on between patches, this game isnt the best for that, for better or for worse.

[Harlot]

I am sorry but as someone who played WoW over 6 years and who started playign FFXIV i can easily say that extremes trial are not equal to normal raid or even heroic raids. Some of them are almost as difficult as mythic. And that really bothered me.

[Shuuli]

Youre correct in thinking that difficulty generally goes Normal>Extreme>Savage>Ultimate, but its worth noting that a lot of these terms make them seem harder than they really are. Extreme is midcore content, and would probably be equivalent with normal or heroic raid difficulty in wow. Normal content here is like LFR in wow. I do believe that the jump from current normal content to current Extreme content is way way too big of a jump for most people who aren't experienced with MMOs, but that's a topic for another day lol

if you're looking for a treadmill to run on between patches, this game isnt the best for that, for better or for worse.

You missed Unreal I think Unreal is between Extreme and Savage or so.

I am someone who likes to do trials, raids and dungeons but looks like as long as i don't put enough mind and time for it i won'T be able to do them cause extremes trials are too time consuming and hard for me. And i don't wanna do anything else but raiding, trials and dungeons.

I would try to do the deep dungeons in your place. That is the most familiar thing to WoW mythic in my opinion.

And soon you will have the new one out anyway.

Just a note > do not do it on party finder as you cannot go higher a certain level through that. You need to make your own party (like in WoW) to be able to use full content for PTOD.

You can reach 200 in like 2 - 3 days if your party sticks together.

But also good luck finding 3 person who has free time to run the whole shit down and are sticking together to run again.

Edit> there are pretty good achievements and unlocking options by doing Fates. Currently one of the most expensieve items in the game can be purchased by running , and maxing out fates. So you can do fate groups too.

Also, if you like shiney weapons, start your relic weapon journey. I suggest to not to start with ARR ones or you will pull your hair out on trying to figure out what you need to do.

[Illmaeran]

You missed Unreal

Shuuli,

Unreal's a shooter, not MMO.

:P

Edit> there are pretty good achievements and unlocking options by doing Fates.

FATES + Squadron Spiritbinding or XP boost scrolls = Win.

[Jeeqbit]

You missed Unreal I think Unreal is between Extreme and Savage or so.

Unreal is old extremes scaled to max level. The only difference is that it's synced to almost minimum item level, so it might feel harder than it used to. The current one is easier than the level 50 version because we have more abilities.

[VelKallor]

Endgame is basically whatever you want it to be.

and back in the day when i was playing WoW they were strict things to do when it comes to endgame

FF 14 doesnt suffer from that colossal mistake. WOW's "raid or die" mentality is one of their biggest ongoing failings..one that is still driving people away.

In brief, do whatever you feel like.