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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I think that's Athena in the doorway and I've thought since we found out about Erich that she's Igeyorhm.

    And I was really hoping since it's called Pandaemonium that we'd see Mateus' Light Emperor/Dark Emperor aspect come into play. Mateus is my favorite villain next to Kefka.

    I also saw someone on Twitter compare Mateus' symbol with the way everyone is presented on this and it matched pretty well.
    Never know, he may have a part in the 2nd or 3rd portion. Considering we have Golbez, why not?
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    Last edited by IkaraGreydancer; 07-31-2022 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    Considering every Ascian story has went from generic Bob Evil (insert number here) to a retconned (and convoluted) sob story, call it a wild hunch. Kingdom Hearts called, they want their Organization XIII back.

    Midas already did the Jekyll and Hyde cliche thanks to Bahamut, really. As for abandoning storylines, Bozja says hi.
    Remember when KH was just a final fantasy feeling story with classic Disney story beats? That was pretty fun. Shame what happened to the franchise, lol.
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  3. #73
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    It's been a hot minute since I played the original KH, but I don't recall it ever wallowing in enough Deep Angst to give me an FF vibe at the time, personally. Maybe a bit of Chrono Trigger? Definitely not Cross. Newer KHs seem to wallow in it, sure, but my eyes finally crossed right around Birth By Sleep and I stopped playing.

    I really miss the days when Square stories didn't jump the shark quite so hard, but Endwalker in general makes me feel like I got the ocean fishing achievement mount. Or at least the minion. I mean at least FFIX had a solid enough ending it made sense despite Necron's random appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Funny, we too wish they'd move on to better plot points. Unfortunately, we're very much stuck with the Scions for 10 more years. Wonder if it'll take all 10 years for them to show some more meaningful character development.

    Btw, let us not forget it was the Sundered and their benefactors who "Beat the Ancients into the aether". Wonder how much complaint you'd show if say..... the next Vauthry was the one with some lame-o-zoid fanfiction sob story. But then, surely the devs and GCBTW would never do THAT, right? :3
    Aw, I missed this. Must've been the edit.

    But we've already had multiple children corrupted by creepy adults, Vauthry was never unique in that. It's like one of Square's favorite tropes. Kefka, pumped so full of magitek as an orphan boy it drove him insane, on Gestahl's orders. Sephiroth, experimented on by Hojo in utero with Jenova cells. Kuja, created with a killswitch by Garland. Seymour, banished with his mother by his creepy father because he'd lose cred with the other Guado. That whole VIII thing, whatever the heck that was. The "megalomaniacal madman's" skeevy penchant for using women to create pawns in his game is just the latest in the line. Zenos may have been another casualty of that one.

    I'd almost say you don't seem to recognize the difference between an infant who had no choice in being Tempered before birth, and a skeevy adult man who did so many "bad things", as Yoshida put it, fully cognizant. Surely it can't be that, it's so obvious. But I've read this post several times, and I'm still not sure what you're trying to imply.
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    Last edited by Puksi; 08-01-2022 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    It's been a hot minute since I played the original KH, but I don't recall it ever wallowing in enough Deep Angst to give me an FF vibe at the time, personally. Maybe a bit of Chrono Trigger? Definitely not Cross. Newer KHs seem to wallow in it, sure, but my eyes finally crossed right around Birth By Sleep and I stopped playing.

    I really miss the days when Square stories didn't jump the shark quite so hard, but Endwalker in general makes me feel like I got the ocean fishing achievement mount. Or at least the minion. I mean at least FFIX had a solid enough ending it made sense despite Necron's random appearance.

    Do I need to remind you about THE scene? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Oh wow... he does kinda have a pretty face... must not... give in... not falling for it!!!
    its already too late for me...
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    Oh? You want to be healed? Then beg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Never know, he may have a part in the 2nd or 3rd portion. Considering we have Golbez, why not?
    I just hope they don't make one version normal and one version Savage. I hated how they did that with Kefka.
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    Newsflash, the website got updated
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    Huh. Is that Sidurgu, Leveva, and Estinien fighting Good King Moogle Mogg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Huh. Is that Sidurgu, Leveva, and Estinien fighting Good King Moogle Mogg?
    That's what it looks like. They did say they were going to be changing it a bit. So if it is those NPCs then Estinien and Sidugru get to share in their dislike of moogles.
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