FFXIV - Buried Memory (Poster)

[TheMightyMollusk]

And yet we still have to use an eorzean deity in our character sheet in the creation menu instead of anything having to do with our race make it make sense

An entirely cosmetic option that affects nothing, so they didn't bother to change it when adding new races. I think it used to affect elemental resistances, but since those were removed, it's just a leftover that only exists for flavor.

[Enkidoh]

And yet we still have to use an eorzean deity in our character sheet in the creation menu instead of anything having to do with our race make it make sense

Because your race has no connection to your chosen deity (really the only race that has any specific connection to one of the Twelve are the miqo'te, with the Sunseekers devoted to Azeyma and the Moonkeepers to Menphina respectively - Guardian deity is more connected to a city rather than a racial group in Eorzea, but you are under absolutely no obligation to choose that one specifically, which one you choose is up to you),.

You take a member of the Twelve as your guardian because it's considered a cultural thing to do so for travellers upon arriving in Eorzea, "when in Rome do as the Romans do" and all that, and especially so when joining up as an adventurer.

Chosen guardian no longer has any connection to gameplay anyway so if you dislike it that much just ignore it on the character sheet.

[XiRon]

You take a member of the Twelve as your guardian because it's considered a cultural thing to do so for travellers upon arriving in Eorzea, "when in Rome do as the Romans do" and all that, and especially so when joining up as an adventurer.

Chosen guardian no longer has any connection to gameplay anyway so if you dislike it that much just ignore it on the character sheet.

Thats stupid.
Nobody and up identifies under a new religious identity when they travel what?
Oh sure I'll just change my spirituality to fit in, its fun, its cool.
Its just more of the writers not adapting to new races. Your "hometown" as a hrothgar or viera or auri is whatever city you start in, despite being the singular member of your race in all of eorzea, unless you do the warrior, gnb, or white mage questlines.
I really think its more than time the writing of the game reflect the reality of the players and add in a/v/h lore into Eorzea instead of whatever expansion zone they smack them in.
Not of course that it matters, they already sent the bar for MotR into hell by not having Azemya have any miqote traits (unless you wanna be generous and say Byregot resembles a roe) so hooray...more Ascians who are just remodeled hyur and earless elezen, I hope the design team doesnt wear themselves out being creative.
(Also aint it cute that not a single ascian uses the Roe model despite roes having almost nothing separating them from hyurs? Show your bias more guys!)

[Iscah]

Nobody and up identifies under a new religious identity when they travel what?
Oh sure I'll just change my spirituality to fit in, its fun, its cool.
Its just more of the writers not adapting to new races.

I don't think it's the "writers not adapting", it's the character template that seems very rigid.

As for "changing your spirituality to fit the location", I don't think that is the case. Rather, in a world where everyone seems to believe that multiple gods exist, and are often associated with a specific place, then it's more about paying tribute to the local god while you're visiting their territory. It's a totally different starting mindset to the idea of being loyal to a single god to ensure your place in the afterlife.

As for the Twelve, if they came into existence in the time before the modern races exist, then it's unlikely for them to resemble the modern races. Maybe they're ancients, maybe they're constructs of the ancients, but if they date from that time then it's not strange that they look that way. (Although Nald'thal is a complete oddity in this aspect, looking more like a living statue than a person.)

What little we've been told so far indicates that the "real" Twelve existed before the Eorzeans ever worshipped them, and the religions developed out of genuine sightings of those beings – so Azeyma has no reason to resemble the people who started to worship her after she already came into being. The Miqo'te may be primarily sun-worshippers who adopted Azeyma as patron because she is the local sun goddess.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Lotta mad there over something that has no affect on anything whatsoever, but you do you.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I wish the writers would move onto something new instead of the latest, convoluted Ascian sob story. It's a dead horse that's been Sundered and beaten into the aether at this point.

Yeah, I'm not sure why the writers don't just leave a story thread they started and go on to something else. We don't even really know what going on in Pande yet so how can you call it a sob story? The Pande story is in fact new so I'm not sure what you're really asking for.

On the topic of the art itself it's quite interesting. Maybe Laha has some sort of Dr. Jeckll Mr. Hyde thing going on.

[Puksi]

Considering every Ascian story has went from generic Bob Evil (insert number here) to a retconned (and convoluted) sob story, call it a wild hunch. Kingdom Hearts called, they want their Organization XIII back.

Midas already did the Jekyll and Hyde cliche thanks to Bahamut, really. As for abandoning storylines, Bozja says hi.

[Raoabolic]

Considering every Ascian story has went from generic Bob Evil (insert number here) to a retconned (and convoluted) sob story, call it a wild hunch. Kingdom Hearts called, they want their Organization XIII back.

Midas already did the Jekyll and Hyde cliche thanks to Bahamut, really. As for abandoning storylines, Bozja says hi.

Remember when KH was just a final fantasy feeling story with classic Disney story beats? That was pretty fun. Shame what happened to the franchise, lol.

[Puksi]

It's been a hot minute since I played the original KH, but I don't recall it ever wallowing in enough Deep Angst to give me an FF vibe at the time, personally. Maybe a bit of Chrono Trigger? Definitely not Cross. Newer KHs seem to wallow in it, sure, but my eyes finally crossed right around Birth By Sleep and I stopped playing.

I really miss the days when Square stories didn't jump the shark quite so hard, but Endwalker in general makes me feel like I got the ocean fishing achievement mount. Or at least the minion. I mean at least FFIX had a solid enough ending it made sense despite Necron's random appearance.

[Raoabolic]

It's been a hot minute since I played the original KH, but I don't recall it ever wallowing in enough Deep Angst to give me an FF vibe at the time, personally. Maybe a bit of Chrono Trigger? Definitely not Cross. Newer KHs seem to wallow in it, sure, but my eyes finally crossed right around Birth By Sleep and I stopped playing.

I really miss the days when Square stories didn't jump the shark quite so hard, but Endwalker in general makes me feel like I got the ocean fishing achievement mount. Or at least the minion. I mean at least FFIX had a solid enough ending it made sense despite Necron's random appearance.

Do I need to remind you about THE scene? lol