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  1. #1
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    Bureda's Avatar
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    Bureda Ghodhand
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    Rogue Lv 100

    Hey Yoshi P, PvP is dead on prime time

    Yup.

    How about we get a dedicated PvP team to start hotfixing the game and gain peoples trust.

    AoE CC is too much, you're getting silenced and stunned when you're visually miles away from the CC beam. AoE CC width is just too wide and not fun. Start narrowing down those hitboxes.

    Chain CC is too much. 6 to 8 seconds of CC, uncoordinated, is just sleeper/boring, whether you're doing it or you're getting received, it doesn't feel good.

    AST gets their aoe CC removed as soon as they become top contenders but WHM still keeps Polymorph and American sized wide stun beam. Tone Deaf.

    BLM can wreck havoc from miles away without being punished. Tone Deaf.

    Paladin Guardian being exploited used as people use heal in the middle of combat or capture objectives. Working as intended? Tone Deaf.

    No diminishing returns for CC. Tone Deaf.

    Silence literally silencing your Cleanse. Tone Deaf.

    Fix core mechanics and get rid of job favouritism. It's getting boring now.

    You've given WHM so much under the hood power it's disgusting, crazy wide CC, Polymorph denying LBs.

    The fact that EVERY healer heal takes priority over LBs, so that means they can deny a MNK, MCH, NIN or RDM kill shots when used at the same time or within half a second after that.


    Say you care, every action so far says you don't.


    6.2 will fix it I say as I inhale on some copium.
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    Osmond's Avatar
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    ………most PvP are like this. It cannot be balanced equally. Doing that will hurt the game even more to a…..pretty much dead game. Some abilities have to be brain dead or unfair otherwise no one would be able to figure out how to defeat it. Telling ppl that it’s not so bad.

    I did thought WHM was overpowered. After many matches, it’s not as strong as you think. It’s the same as WAR’s monkey flip. Most of their abilities, you just scatter and their abilities are pretty weak, easy to exploit and counter. It’s one of those things, playing competitive game. If you don’t play at least over 200+ matches, you will have that mindset that the game is dead when it’s just, “do I know how to play this game effectively?” Nothing anyone can do on solo casual/rank, it is what it is.

    It won’t die, it have a niche audience. That’s just how competitive games are.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Define dead? When I queue ranked it still pops within 5 minutes.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    I hope they'll never balance it into the ground like old PvP. That stuff was booooooring. Case in point, current PvE job design.
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    Anri Khatayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I hope they'll never balance it into the ground like old PvP. That stuff was booooooring. Case in point, current PvE job design.
    There's balancing it into the ground, and there's being an unbalanced mess where only a few jobs are actually fun. Diminishing returns and Fetterward should've been in the mode since launch, you don't have to be a veteran game designer to know that people don't enjoy having their hands figuratively smacked off the keyboard every 5secs
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    Last edited by Dreadz; 07-28-2022 at 01:19 PM.

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    Night Hour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post

    WHM still keeps Polymorph and American sized wide stun beam. Tone Deaf.
    That also has the shortest recharge timer out of all Limit Breaks.
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    Dangerous Days
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    OP, your post has some good points but you didn't have to make the title a lie. Still getting insta-pops for casual even in the early hours of the morning on my world. Definitely not dead lol.
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Someone coming in to say OP has skill issue in... 3.... 2.... 1.....
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  9. #9
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    Bureda Ghodhand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Define dead? When I queue ranked it still pops within 5 minutes.
    Are you tanking about Ranked or Casual? If so list Data Center for that. Which DCs are still having a 5 minute or less ranked que?

    Quote Originally Posted by NightHour View Post
    That also has the shortest recharge timer out of all Limit Breaks.
    Yup, forgot about that. There's just too much WHM favouritism. I'm bound to forget something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma860 View Post
    OP, your post has some good points but you didn't have to make the title a lie. Still getting insta-pops for casual even in the early hours of the morning on my world. Definitely not dead lol.
    You're right, my bad. I should have pointed out I am referencing Ranked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    ………most PvP are like this. It cannot be balanced equally. Doing that will hurt the game even more to a…..pretty much dead game. Some abilities have to be brain dead or unfair otherwise no one would be able to figure out how to defeat it. Telling ppl that it’s not so bad.

    I did thought WHM was overpowered. After many matches, it’s not as strong as you think. It’s the same as WAR’s monkey flip. Most of their abilities, you just scatter and their abilities are pretty weak, easy to exploit and counter. It’s one of those things, playing competitive game. If you don’t play at least over 200+ matches, you will have that mindset that the game is dead when it’s just, “do I know how to play this game effectively?” Nothing anyone can do on solo casual/rank, it is what it is.

    It won’t die, it have a niche audience. That’s just how competitive games are.
    Nah, most competitive games thrive. Having a niche player base of the same 15 faces isn't thriving. It's dead. I don't know if you've played much competitive gaming but if it receives the love, balance and appealing enough rewards it will take care of itself. I don't need to be on some discord or beg someone to que to play ranked, it should be a thought-out system that respects my time and effort and right now it's just taking the micky. The good thing now though is, we know Square Enix and FF14 devs are shooting themselves in the foot and cannot claim that 'well it's just not popular enough' because as it has been shown that it is not the case.
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    Last edited by Bureda; 07-29-2022 at 12:44 AM.

  10. #10
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    I'm on aether. I usually play ranked in the evening before raid nights and the queue's are always within 5 minute pops.
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