Delete Ninja from PvP

[Nanne]

Got hit by that 3% chance? I'm asking because that is the only thing current MCH can do to get a kill

There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn't up

[Issaella]

There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn't up

Sure there is. You can hit them with Drill when they are sub-20%, or AA when they are sub-25%, or your LB when they are sub-30%, or you LB + AA or Drill when they are sub 50%. Or if you are on AA you might be able to kill them if they are sub-60% if you AA+Saw+LB if, and only if they are too slow to use a Recup between the GCDs.

One thing is for sure. You are not going to 100-0 anyone, ever, unless they are afk.

[Valence]

Sure there is. You can hit them with Drill when they are sub-20%, or AA when they are sub-25%, or your LB when they are sub-30%, or you LB + AA or Drill when they are sub 50%. Or if you are on AA you might be able to kill them if they are sub-60% if you AA+Saw+LB if, and only if they are too slow to use a Recup between the GCDs.

One thing is for sure. You are not going to 100-0 anyone, ever, unless they are afk.

Full MCH LB burst is close to 75k ish potency. This will kill almost anybody unless they manage to sneak a recuperate, guard, or have mitigation up (barriers, damage reductions, etc). I've oneshot so many people, including tanks, that it can be disgusting, but it's also not a free one button sequence, it requires a setup. But yeah, MCH is actually a nasty tank killer, when tanks are too confident or don't want to give up on contesting a point.

[Vatom]

remove MCH instead

You still crying about McH lol

1.)Remove all jobs except WHM
2.)Make Limit Break into a Fan AOE
3.)wait for complaints about WHM being too powerful
4.)Profit?

You discuss me but I love this post lol

[Kaliesto]

I've seen Ninjas always reaching max in their rank on Frontlines very quickly, and they're almost nearly impossible to defeat.

[AnnRam]

I've seen Ninjas always reaching max in their rank on Frontlines very quickly, and they're almost nearly impossible to defeat.

Because the ridiculous defense buff (60% for melee jobs and 30% for ranges iirc) turned everyone in to a Tank meanwhile guard makes things worse.

This happened because instead of nerfing SMN LB in FL SE for no logic reason decided to buff them even more until the current patch arrived making SMN completely useless I mean even if 5 bahamuths lands in your head you aren't going to lose more than 40% of your HP.

Current PVP FL wouldn't be a snore fest if guard don't reduce the incoming damage anymore and just protect you from CC.

Tanks (PLD/DRK) are so annoying l/unkilleable that abusing NIN it's the only way to stop them.

[Lustre]

There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn\\'t up

Not anymore in FL. You can dump your entire kit including a LB onto someone and unless it's a 0BH healer, they'll probably survive if they know how to use Recuperate. Especially so if it's a tank, or extra damage tank (melee)

[Elfidan]

1.)Remove all jobs except WHM
2.)Make Limit Break into a Fan AOE
3.)wait for complaints about WHM being too powerful
4.)Profit?

[Ravenwatch]

There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn't up

Care to elaborate on this unstoppable and magical combo?

[Vatom]

Care to elaborate on this unstoppable and magical combo?

Wild fire drill(A) shotgun with the 2hits easy
WF 2 tap LB easy
mortar bio (let them tic a bit) shot gun (if 50%) moderate
mortar bio heated shot air anchor hard since people can spam heal but if distracted it become a silent melter
drill(A) shotgun(dbl) LB easy if not many are around
chainsaw proc (Pray)

these are the ones I saw succeed at least could be some better ones out there