PvP is simply garbage

[MonteCristo]

It's useless advice, being in or out of position does not stop you from being CC'd, nor does it stop WAR from being able to pull you with Blota. There's only so many places you can be on the map whilst contributing. Melees are either playing on the point or harassing ranged and ranged are usually off the point dishing out damage. If a WAR pulls a range onto the point are you going to tell the ranged "You were out of position."?

The terrible map design only exacerbates this problem, 2 out 3 maps are nothing but long sightlines for ranged to harass melee with barely any corners for melee to play around, on maps like these, what exactly does it mean to be in position?

And for true melee dps ( not ninja or drg ) these problems are MUCH harder to counter

[Towa-Musa]

Telling people to not be out of position, to stop chasing enemies and to know when to push the attack or when to retreat is not useless advice. Saying that stuff like that is useless advice just goes to show that you have no interest in improving. Equally, being hunched up on the point is generally not the best option either. All of your complaints seem to come down to you just lacking awareness.



I never said anything about DR. I've actually advocated for DR to return. Doesn't change the fact that most of ya'lls problems are at the fault of your poor play



You've done nothing to counter what I have said, but hey, keep posting that dumb gif which is a perfect representation of players like you who get hard stuck in bronze in a game that's super easy to climb ranks in.

Bro you literally walk in here calling people 'bad' for having very very valid criticisms at the mode over all then proceed to double down after being called out for your ignorance by BASICALLY saying 'The games not bad, you're just bad' do you have any idea what that makes you look like here? you look like a troll or a fool.

Before you even THINK of calling me of all people bad, I will have you know i have the field commander coat, Slaughterhouse title (1,500 kills away from Hand of mercy) AND i was plat in CC. So i think you better think loooong and hard before you start assuming i have nothing to counter your argument with. You came here with literally NO argument based in fact, while we are pointing at the issues and saying they need to be fixed. You had no argument to begin with.

[Ransu]

The field commander coat and the slaughter house title are things that are not hard to get....its just a grind lmao. Also, plat....really? Neat I guess? That's not really a rank to be bragging about when that's basically the middle of the pack that I wouldn't even call average considering how easy it was to get to crystal in season 1 and 2. I'm no pro, but getting 1k crystal rating twice says a lot more about my skill than you being stuck in plat. So ya, you have nothing to really counter with and I stand by my statement. Ya'lls complaints are basically coming from poor play.

[Towa-Musa]

The field commander coat and the slaughter house title are things that are not hard to get....its just a grind lmao. Also, plat....really? Neat I guess? That's not really a rank to be bragging about when that's basically the middle of the pack that I wouldn't even call average considering how easy it was to get to crystal in season 1 and 2. I'm no pro, but getting 1k crystal rating twice says a lot more about my skill than you being stuck in plat. So ya, you have nothing to really counter with and I stand by my statement. Ya'lls complaints are basically coming from poor play.

Hey guys see this dude? hes here to troll and annoy people, ignore him because hes irrelevant. if he continues to press the issue just report him for griefing. the fact he replied the way he did just proves my earlier point. side note, the fact you got 1k crystal rating twice means nothing to me, you probably win traded.

[MonteCristo]

The field commander coat and the slaughter house title are things that are not hard to get....its just a grind lmao. Also, plat....really? Neat I guess? That's not really a rank to be bragging about when that's basically the middle of the pack that I wouldn't even call average considering how easy it was to get to crystal in season 1 and 2. I'm no pro, but getting 1k crystal rating twice says a lot more about my skill than you being stuck in plat. So ya, you have nothing to really counter with and I stand by my statement. Ya'lls complaints are basically coming from poor play.

Whats funny is...the same issues we are highlighting are also being discussed in the biggest pvp discord as well. They also acknowledge that CC is a mess right now... I guess that is sheer coincidence too huh???

[Towa-Musa]

Whats funny is...the same issues we are highlighting are also being discussed in the biggest pvp discord as well. They also acknowledge that CC is a mess right now... I guess that is sheer coincidence too huh???

the guy probably has no idea what hes talking about lol

[Ransu]

It's useless advice, being in or out of position does not stop you from being CC'd, nor does it stop WAR from being able to pull you with Blota. There's only so many places you can be on the map whilst contributing. Melees are either playing on the point or harassing ranged and ranged are usually off the point dishing out damage. If a WAR pulls a range onto the point are you going to tell the ranged "You were out of position."?

The terrible map design only exacerbates this problem, 2 out 3 maps are nothing but long sightlines for ranged to harass melee with barely any corners for melee to play around, on maps like these, what exactly does it mean to be in position?

Its only useless advice to players who don't want to look at themselves. You are exactly the player that probably chases and runs into a 4v2 situation causing the respawns to continue to stagger. And if a ranged gets pulled by a war btw....yes 99% of the time that ranged player was way out of position or wasn't paying attention and didn't fall back when the fight was lost. If the ranged is where they should be and gets pulled by a war and your team fails to kill the war that was grossly over extending then the problem is your team being bad for not taking the free kill. Sucks when that happens, but that's the coin flip you get sometimes.

Hey guys see this dude? hes here to troll and annoy people, ignore him because hes irrelevant. if he continues to press the issue just report him for griefing. the fact he replied the way he did just proves my earlier point. side note, the fact you got 1k crystal rating twice means nothing to me, you probably win traded.

Then why has over 50% of the players in CC had no problem getting the crystal achievement? By your logic they all just win traded, which is ridiculous. If I was gonna win trade I'd push it to the top 100, not a mediocre 1k score. Pointing out the flaws in peoples arguments is not trolling. The game has balance problems, it has network problems as well, but yet again, most of ya'lls complains are almost entirely skill problems. Yes we need DR, yes the game is stun heavy, and things like taken damage after guard was up is frustrating, but its not so extreme that its preventing players from climbing. That's a you problem for failing to adapt.

Pointing out flaws in your "arguments" (which in your case you never had one, you just posted a stupid gif and never actually made any kind of counter argument) is not trolling and calling me a troll just goes to show that you really have no argument.

[Towa-Musa]

Its only useless advice to players who don't want to look at themselves. You are exactly the player that probably chases and runs into a 4v2 situation causing the respawns to continue to stagger. And if a ranged gets pulled by a war btw....yes 99% of the time that ranged player was way out of position or wasn't paying attention and didn't fall back when the fight was lost. If the ranged is where they should be and gets pulled by a war and your team fails to kill the war that was grossly over extending then the problem is your team being bad for not taking the free kill. Sucks when that happens, but that's the coin flip you get sometimes.



Then why has over 50% of the players in CC had no problem getting the crystal achievement? By your logic they all just win traded, which is ridiculous. If I was gonna win trade I'd push it to the top 100, not a mediocre 1k score. Pointing out the flaws in peoples arguments is not trolling. The game has balance problems, it has network problems as well, but yet again, most of ya'lls complains are almost entirely skill problems. Yes we need DR, yes the game is stun heavy, and things like taken damage after guard was up is frustrating, but its not so extreme that its preventing players from climbing. That's a you problem for failing to adapt.

Pointing out flaws in your "arguments" (which in your case you never had one, you just posted a stupid gif and never actually made any kind of counter argument) is not trolling and calling me a troll just goes to show that you really have no argument.

dude, im literally telling you you're argument is literally invalid and i have no reason to take you seriously at all. infact i skimmed past all of what you said for the most part. you're now talking to the wall.

[Ransu]

dude, im literally telling you you're argument is literally invalid and i have no reason to take you seriously at all. infact i skimmed past all of what you said for the most part. you're now talking to the wall.

I haven't taken you seriously from the start, less so when you mentioned you hard capped into plat, so we're even I guess. Stay bad and never improve.

[Towa-Musa]

I haven't taken you seriously from the start, less so when you mentioned you hard capped into plat, so we're even I guess. Stay bad and never improve.