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  1. #151
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    Whether you like it or not, it is an undeniable fact that this new PvP system removed the skill gap between normal players and veterans.
    If this is still 5.0 DR system, most of people post here don’t event stand a chance in PvP.
    The complexity of PvP rotations also has been simplified in a way that normal players can output same damage as veterans
    The only jobs left still demanding skill to play is Reaper, Monk, and Dancer (personal opinion)
    I really don’t see why you guys want to complain about something allows you to perform well to begin with
    I am 100% agree I prefer 5.0 DR system but is it really what you want?
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  2. #152
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    5.0 pvp wasn't all that complex either....Unless you enjoyed immortal healers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
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    Last edited by Ransu; 08-27-2022 at 05:43 AM.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Whether you like it or not, it is an undeniable fact that this new PvP system removed the skill gap between normal players and veterans.
    If this is still 5.0 DR system, most of people post here don’t event stand a chance in PvP.
    The complexity of PvP rotations also has been simplified in a way that normal players can output same damage as veterans
    The only jobs left still demanding skill to play is Reaper, Monk, and Dancer (personal opinion)
    I really don’t see why you guys want to complain about something allows you to perform well to begin with
    I am 100% agree I prefer 5.0 DR system but is it really what you want?
    lol nah dude, im all for removing DR all together because fights that last ages are dumb, nobody wants to have to go and get 4 people to kill ONE tank.. I literally posted a thread that lists a bunch of changes I and a bunch of others would rather have instead of whatever the current garbage system is.
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  4. #154
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    All of this over someone recognizing that Blota has higher priority over Purify's Resilience...

    Was all of this really necessary?
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    5.0 pvp wasn't all that complex either....Unless you enjoyed immortal healers.
    There is always an issue in every expansion
    2.3 is Ninja
    3.0 is Machinest burst that zero out target HP from 100% to 0% minutes n 4 GCDs
    4.0 is War with burst and high HP

    Nothing new really, it is just you need to adopt and anticipate
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  6. #156
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    I've reached a conclusion, CC is absolute trash and so are the Job bull**** abilities along with it, especially Monks that piss me off to no end.

    At first I liked the PVP changes, but now I'm seeing the funny side.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 08-27-2022 at 05:55 AM.

  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    lol nah dude, im all for removing DR all together because fights that last ages are dumb, nobody wants to have to go and get 4 people to kill ONE tank.. I literally posted a thread that lists a bunch of changes I and a bunch of others would rather have instead of whatever the current garbage system is.
    Your suggestion was pretty much revert PvP back to 5.0
    It will not be 5 of you kill that tank, it is more that tank will kill 5 of you by himself in 5.o
    PLD alone best every ranges and I honestly miss 5.0 PLD
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  8. #158
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    There is always an issue in every expansion
    2.3 is Ninja
    3.0 is Machinest burst that zero out target HP from 100% to 0% minutes n 4 GCDs
    4.0 is War with burst and high HP

    Nothing new really, it is just you need to adopt and anticipate
    That's fine and all, good players always adapt, but that doesn't change the fact that the prior pvp combat was not really all that complex. The pvp needed to be sped up and its exactly what they did as TTK has been an issue for awhile with the old pvp. I do miss things like DR and old mnk was a lot more fun in pvp with its burst windows, I still think the baseline of current pvp is better. It just needs to be tinkered with more.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Your suggestion was pretty much revert PvP back to 5.0
    It will not be 5 of you kill that tank, it is more that tank will kill 5 of you by himself in 5.o
    PLD alone best every ranges and I honestly miss 5.0 PLD
    good, sounds like 5.0 would be better then this nonsense anyway. skill should be held higher then appeasing casuals
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  11. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika View Post
    All of this over someone recognizing that Blota has higher priority over Purify's Resilience...

    Was all of this really necessary?
    take that up with the Resident troll, i simply pointed out the dude was Crap stirring and that he should be treated as such.
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