PvP is simply garbage

[Sindele]

It's a nonsense thread with one actionable piece of feedback couched in a dozen insults and a sprinkling of outright factually incorrect statements. It's not "a bit harsh", it's a sparkling example of a particularly outdated brand of toxicity. If someone told me the language in the OP was copied from the WoW forums circa 2007, I would believe it without a second thought.

[Sacro]

It's a nonsense thread with one actionable piece of feedback couched in a dozen insults and a sprinkling of outright factually incorrect statements. It's not "a bit harsh", it's a sparkling example of a particularly outdated brand of toxicity. If someone told me the language in the OP was copied from the WoW forums circa 2007, I would believe it without a second thought.

A thread that has also generated quite a bit of actionable feedback from other users. It's also worth noting that its good for SE to be able to gauge how angry players are with certain issues with the game.

Believe it or not people are allowed to be angry, and angry at your favourite gaming corporation, especially considering how bad PvP is, and the fundamental issues behind why it is so bad.

Not everything unpleasant is toxic. Grow up.

[Sindele]

A thread that has also generated quite a bit of actionable feedback from other users. It's also worth noting that its good for SE to be able to gauge how angry players are with certain issues with the game.

Believe it or not people are allowed to be angry, and angry at your favourite gaming corporation, especially considering how bad PvP is, and the fundamental issues behind why it is so bad.

Not everything unpleasant is toxic. Grow up.

You can be angry all you like, but expressing it like this has historically managed to get very little done, and in the present era is outright dismissible.

And yes, the language being used in the OP is still toxic. If you believe otherwise, you may wish to consider taking your own advice. This isn't how adults get things done in reality.

[Dreadz]

You can be angry all you like, but expressing it like this has historically managed to get very little done, and in the present era is outright dismissible.

And yes, the language being used in the OP is still toxic. If you believe otherwise, you may wish to consider taking your own advice. This isn't how adults get things done in reality.

I guess only the most toxic scums were asking for LD changes, considering it how long it took for them to actually touch the ability. You and I both know that feedback doesn't matter when it comes from anything but the Japanese forums. Besides, there's just too many idiotic things in PvP that it'd be hard to not be toxic because of them. For example, why does turning PvP effects down to "Some" also remove the majority of LBs? The devs seems to think that if you don't want to see the various glitterbomb effects being thrown all over the place then you don't want to see game changing LBs.

[Sacro]

You and I both know that feedback doesn't matter when it comes from anything but the Japanese forums..

Almost makes me want to go back to WoW. At least then I know I'm not being ignored because of where I live. But because everyone is being ignored. "Here you are all equally worthless" is preferable to "Some are more equal than others".

[Nanne]

Almost makes me want to go back to WoW. At least then I know I'm not being ignored because of where I live. But because everyone is being ignored. "Here you are all equally worthless" is preferable to "Some are more equal than others".

The reason is that in JP they actually write good and informative lengthy feedback and have a nice discussion in their threads. In EU/NA its just people screaming "PLEASE FIX THIS IS OP/BAD" without anything else and then 2/3 of the comments are trolls Also looking at the general forum here I would be so happy they would 100% ignore everything that is written here

[BRVV]

The reason is that in JP they actually write good and informative lengthy feedback and have a nice discussion in their threads.

Did you personally read the japanese forums? I remember Yoshi-P asking players to be less toxic and people finding out he meant the japanese players. Not to mention the massive amount of bullying with components of cyberstalking seemingly integrated into japanese online culture. I hope you are not wearing rosecolored glassed towards the Japanese.