PvP is simply garbage

[Dreadz]

This is literally your first post and you came here to whine and rage like a child?

Please re-think your behavior.

Yes, I mainly made this post to vent, but don't pretend that it isn't true. Who actually enjoys losing control over their character constantly, dying and waiting 15secs minimum to get back into the fight. Especially when the paltry tools the devs give you to mitigate some of those problems barely work.

[Genz]

Decent pvp before 6.1 was an accident and the dev.team made sure to fix it. It works as intended now.

[Vatom]

Some people, like myself are after mounts/achievements. So yes, some people do.

Oh Im sorry I didnt know FL had such a competitive following
please continue Im sure after the 10 wins its still worth everything after
You must have develop stats and everything right?
what tips do you got for me please I still need more win for my last mount

[Llynethil]

As far as FL goes, remove all changes from last patch in terms of durability buffs and just nerf damn summoner LB, it's that simple.

You can't give someone a move that's a big aoe and cc's and big damage ontop of it.
Either make it an aoe cc with next to no damage or keep it as it is and remove the stun, which would be the preferred way as cc is out of control in pvp anyway.

That and fix the damn paladin duo's going invincible and capping points, like holy crap how hasn't that been hotfixed yet?
It's literally borderline an exploit that you can't do anything against and imho, should be a bannable offense.

[Shuuli]

I got 2 mounts out of 3... I am not touching FL... there is just no way.

Here are is my view:
You now may already know that PvP is crap in this game.
- The balance is crazy messed up.
- The maps are more annoying than fun.
- The matchmaking is nonexistent
- The communication blocking is not a bad idea for toxicity, but then why the hell do you put a map specific "trap" content into each map and don't let people warn your newbies about it. Sometimes I can literally see when someone is new and has no idea whats up and I cannot even explain to them... so they just need to run another 10-15 games til they figure it out. This coming from a game with the mentor / sprout system which is a bit surprising to me. In all other content you encourage people to help others, then a newby comes to this and they are fully deserted. Like wut?
- The report system needs adjustment as PvP in any game is painfully toxic. People grief with spamming emotes and standing in base and all you can do is report them AFTER the game with a very tedious process.
- On that note, I can't even mention enough that there are cheaters because it is clear they won't be able to do anything about this one. So I guess good luck to anyone to trust that your opponent is not cheating with any 3rd party tool. You can only rely on the previously mentioned suuuuper duuper reporting system -.-
- Blocking people should be fixed. If I block someone I don't want to see them in my pvp match... please! Fix this.
- At the start there were enough people to have 2 queues - pre-made and full solo. It might be shocking but people play online games to play with others and specifically their friends. Then they remove the ability to team up with your friends, wut? WUT? Insane! IF they rode out that starting flame, 2 queue would have been fully possible. As it is now all cooled down, not sure if it would not cause big queue. Such a shame that they missed out on this when in any other content they want to create a multiplayer experience "khm... housing.... khm... neighborhood feeling... khm"

- But the most concerning thing that out of all of these issues they only addressed balancing so far. Its feels like they just decided to let this die, even though it seemed they put quite bit of an effort into it (which probably means money too).

On the other hand, everyone says its much better than before, which I believe, but that does not mean its anywhere near where it should be on the scale of good pvp.

Ya know going from a falling plane to a sinking boat is not really that good, one just goes down slower than the other.

[Dreadz]

I have a modicum of hope that some of those will addressed in 6.2, but the fact that I can't simply right click someone's name and report them in PvP is laughable. So many obvious cheaters, mostly NIN and WHM running scripts.

[tsuchii]

She's not wrong. It is hot garbage. The words used are just mean, but it is what it is.

[MonteCristo]

I'm pretty convinced that whoever at SE is making balancing decisions for PVP either has no clue what they're doing, or simply isn't actually putting in anything close the time and effort that would be necessary to make sure things are properly balanced. It takes them ages to acknowledge let alone fix bugs, and anytime they do make balance changes it's always massive knee jerk changes that have sweeping effects.

Frontlines is an absolute mess. Summoner spam used to be an issue, where as now they're practically useless with the damage/mitigation changes. Which of course now melee is way too tanky because of the mitigation changes, with the only way to reasonable kill anyone is to gank them and spam CC on them. Which the spam CC is another issue in of itself with how irritating it can be to get chain CCd with no way out of it, and there being absolutely no diminishing returns on CC. Paladin guardian cheese on capture points is still an issue that was finally acknowledged as a bug, but still nothing has actually been done about it months into the pvp revamp.

And of course there's the underlying fundamental issue with the game itself having a horribly slow tick rate that cause all sorts of responsiveness issues where you can use an ability only for it to not register anywhere near quickly enough to have the effect it would if the game was more responsive.

FF PVP is a mess.

Full on agree but ive learned in these forums that any notion of improvement is met with swift white knights saying everything is perfect.

[NyneSwordz]

Hopefully 6.20 solves some of the issues. But tbh, pvp was worse before, especially frontlines and as a warrior. There was a time when non-healers had no heals WHATSOEVER. This was before they gave pots to everyone. So if you didn't have a healer in your team, you'd basically just die because there was no way to self heal. Or you could run away.

And warriors generated so much rage from just inner release and fc spam that you'd never use your 1-2-3 actions.

As much as people complain about things as they are now, there was a time, albeit brief, that it was worse imo.

[TheElvenQueen]

Can anyone confirm that FF runs on lockstep mode plus fetches all data from a website... that's at least how it feels?
SE engineers: update the game into PREDICTIVE mode. 100% faster than currently, very rare occasional out of sync issues but it's worth the gains.
The game should execute and run as if on the client side, only send data chunks to servers to verify actions.
Look at wow and path of exile.