PvP is simply garbage

[NightHour]

The things that are killing the vibe for me regarding PVP are

- The amount of uncleansable limit breaks / abilities - such as WHM Polymorph.
- Random Nature of MCH's chain saw - Sure it's only 3% but it's super frustrating when it happens, remove it and buff blast charge or heated blast.
- One shot LB's that ignore Guard - Ninja and Samurai come to mind

The biggest peeve I have with PVP is how effective layering cc is.

You can legit be stunned for 10-15 seconds as a Tank and have absolutely zero way of counter playing.

If you purify you'll just end up chain cc'd again.


I legit don't understand why we can't have a diminishing returns system like WoW


- 1st CC of a kind is 100% duration
- 2nd CC of the same kind that hits you in a short period of time after the 1st is 50% duration
- 3rd CC of the same kind that hits you within a short period of time after the 2nd is 33% duration

After the 3rd CC of the same kind, you're immune to that kind of CC for a short period of time


So if you get binded, binded again and then binded again, you'll now be immune to bind effects for a few seconds.

[Sawamura]

- The amount of uncleansable limit breaks / abilities - such as WHM Polymorph, Dancer LB etc.
- One shot LB's that ignore Guard - Ninja and Samurai come to mind

- 1st CC of a kind is 100% duration
- 2nd CC of the same kind that hits you in a short period of time after the 1st is 50% duration
- 3rd CC of the same kind that hits you within a short period of time after the 2nd is 33% duration

After the 3rd CC of the same kind, you're immune to that kind of CC for a short period of time


So if you get binded, binded again and then binded again, you'll now be immune to bind effects for a few seconds.

There is a lot strong Limit break. So One shot mechanic is fine so long there is condition requirement. Like Nin require teamwork to reduce people to 50hp% to get 1 shot and sam require enemy´s hit with chiten. You can still counter sam and nin LB. Mch chained saw is not ok cause is base on rng and nothing can counter.

By time you get 3 time same CC and start immune you are pretty much respawn at start point during how high damage is lol. The mostly problem with CC is cause delay server tick and purify/guard animation. I hope in 6.2 dev team find a way to fix it. Also hope in 7.0 they get better engine and net code lol.

[MonteCristo]

There is a lot strong Limit break. So One shot mechanic is fine so long there is condition requirement. Like Nin require teamwork to reduce people to 50hp% to get 1 shot and sam require enemy´s hit with chiten. You can still counter sam and nin LB. Mch chained saw is not ok cause is base on rng and nothing can counter.

By time you get 3 time same CC and start immune you are pretty much respawn at start point during how high damage is lol. The mostly problem with CC is cause delay server tick and purify/guard animation. I hope in 6.2 dev team find a way to fix it. Also hope in 7.0 they get better engine and net code lol.

7.0 is potentially revamping engine?

[Sawamura]

7.0 is potentially revamping engine?

well yoshi did said upgrade engine since ffxiv right now they still using same or semi from ARR with PS3

[george357]

angry people raging demanding calling names sounds like pvp players to me chill and stop being babys the forums are for reason and logical feed back not ranting post's

[GordonGeeko]

I don't know, it feels like I am the only one, but the amount of CCs or the server tick rates don't bother me as much because it's stuff that affects everyone, so eventually you learn to accept it and try to work around it.

My issue with FFXIV PVP is mostly the players. Yes, the whole "git gud" argument. I feel like there is this mindset in FFXIV that you don't need to always do your best and perform at a high level. That's fine if you're doing leveling roulettes, but when in a competitive environment like PvP, you're damn right you should aim to improve and do your very best. The game also reinforces that mindset by not forcing people to improve (Frontlines XP on losses, winstreak bonuses in CC, no de-ranking).

I find frontlines extremely fun when they are community-events with 72 people who know what they are doing. Crystalline Conflict where everyone does decent damage and there are no extremely weak players are super fun as well. PVP could be fun if it paired people of similar skill together more accurately.

[Dreadz]

I don't know, it feels like I am the only one, but the amount of CCs or the server tick rates don't bother me as much because it's stuff that affects everyone, so eventually you learn to accept it and try to work around it.

My issue with FFXIV PVP is mostly the players. Yes, the whole "git gud" argument. I feel like there is this mindset in FFXIV that you don't need to always do your best and perform at a high level. That's fine if you're doing leveling roulettes, but when in a competitive environment like PvP, you're damn right you should aim to improve and do your very best. The game also reinforces that mindset by not forcing people to improve (Frontlines XP on losses, winstreak bonuses in CC, no de-ranking).

I find frontlines extremely fun when they are community-events with 72 people who know what they are doing. Crystalline Conflict where everyone does decent damage and there are no extremely weak players are super fun as well. PVP could be fun if it paired people of similar skill together more accurately.

How much teamwork and seriousness were you expecting from a game mode where your only form of communication is a handful of useless preset phrases? Why bother trying in such an awful environment that does nothing but foster resentment and rage?

[Ransu]

How much teamwork and seriousness were you expecting from a game mode where your only form of communication is a handful of useless preset phrases? Why bother trying in such an awful environment that does nothing but foster resentment and rage?

Good players at least pay attention to marked targets. Communication would be nice, but a good team can get by with quick chat perfectly fine. The problem isnthe rating system does a bad job of rating skill.

[Redfame]

Ye, best PvP time was at lvl 50/60 time, with PvE skill but that was to difficult for a lot ppl. (to read skills description ...)

And now a 4 buttons gameplay for everyone.
You are covered by 20 cc's on you, can't runaway cuz purify is useless and don't give you 100% immunity, guard is 80% not useable or is blocked by stun/silence/... .

The SAM fuck's up with his 100% kill lb cuz you get instant kuzushi (no time to swap on a other target or stop the attack)

The 0 dmg ninjas steal your kill's.

The life reg outside the fight is rly low. You have always to use your pot...
You can't jump of your ride, if you have silence/bind...

Ranges: you try to hit a enemy and lose 50% of your life cuz of low def/low life/ and a lot aoes.

I played fast since saison 1, but I prefer to delete my account before I will play CrystallineC.
My mates running around like headless chicken, ignore commands and marks.
4 buttons gameplay, now everypne q pvp and get his lucky strike.

[Sacro]

How much teamwork and seriousness were you expecting from a game mode where your only form of communication is a handful of useless preset phrases? Why bother trying in such an awful environment that does nothing but foster resentment and rage?

Irony being they did that to prevent "toxicity" from letting people actually communicate.