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  1. 09-03-2022 02:44 PM

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    Neon231's Avatar
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    Neon Sears
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    Samurai just killed 3-4 of us because of his limit break. I'm not sure why that is a thing or who thought it was a good idea to input something so skill less and boring.
    On top of that, anytime you want to get into combat as a melee you are instantly met with stuns and crowd control stuff. The PVP all around is just awful and gets worse every time they change it. At least PVP was fun and bearable in 3.0.
    To note the stun issue, I would like to actually play the game and not be stuck in a single spot every time I want to get into combat. Mega boring gameplay.
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Neon231 View Post
    Samurai just killed 3-4 of us because of his limit break. I'm not sure why that is a thing or who thought it was a good idea to input something so skill less and boring.
    On top of that, anytime you want to get into combat as a melee you are instantly met with stuns and crowd control stuff. The PVP all around is just awful and gets worse every time they change it. At least PVP was fun and bearable in 3.0.
    To note the stun issue, I would like to actually play the game and not be stuck in a single spot every time I want to get into combat. Mega boring gameplay.
    Yeah, I'm not sure why they keep buffing melee in frontlines when they legitimately just need to add CC diminishing returns back. Also maybe don't make it so over half the CC abilities randomly aren't cleansable. I actually have no idea what they were thinking when they removed CC DR. It's like they completely forgot why they added in the first place and are just repeating old mistakes again.
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neon231 View Post
    Samurai just killed 3-4 of us because of his limit break. I'm not sure why that is a thing or who thought it was a good idea to input something so skill less and boring.
    On top of that, anytime you want to get into combat as a melee you are instantly met with stuns and crowd control stuff. The PVP all around is just awful and gets worse every time they change it. At least PVP was fun and bearable in 3.0.
    To note the stun issue, I would like to actually play the game and not be stuck in a single spot every time I want to get into combat. Mega boring gameplay.
    Yes... the times i clicked on my guard or healed myself but the stun got to the server first is a joke... i literally can put away my controller as every stun means basically im dead as ill get 10 in row... meanwhile you cant kill certain jobs even with half an team... the nerf on my rdm lb is a joke as well as i basically cant even kill ppl stacking mid cross with 1/4 their hp...


    At this point when i go onsai and see pala cheating i just leave. idk, rather i dont do the roulett at all bc it makes me so angry.
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    Last edited by Kuroka; 09-04-2022 at 08:33 PM.

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    Gordon Geeko
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    There's quite a few things I don't like about current skills in Frontlines.

    The samurai LB thing is one thing. If you can't know if they have LB ready, it's kind of like playing russian roulette everytime you are facing one. Do they have LB ready ? Are they about to pop Chiten ? If they do, will I insta die ? You just can't know.

    I also don't like the PLD LB and the DRK LB slowing the game down so much. There's just not much in terms of counterplay. I miss when you could dispel Hallowed Ground on summoner with wither. Now, you just end up with 15 teammates hitting those tanks with no one dying.

    The PLD cover exploit is just ridiculous. It's baffling that's it not been fixed yet.

    Secure games are way too long. They usually reach the full distance and 20 minutes is just too much.
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    Last edited by GordonGeeko; 09-04-2022 at 02:56 PM.

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    Sarah Montcroix
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    There's quite a few things I don't like about current skills in Frontlines.

    The samurai LB thing is one thing. If you can't know if they have LB ready, it's kind of like playing russian roulette everytime you are facing one. Do they have LB ready ? Are they about to pop Chiten ? If they do, will I insta die ? You just can't know.

    I also don't like the PLD LB and the DRK LB slowing the game down so much. There's just not much in terms of counterplay. I miss when you could dispel Hallowed Ground on summoner with wither. Now, you just end up with 15 teammates hitting those tanks with no one dying.

    The PLD cover exploit is just ridiculous. It's baffling that's it not been fixed yet.

    Secure games are way too long. They usually reach the full distance and 20 minutes is just too much.
    The Frontline damage reduction is a bit ridiculous. Everything hits like a wet noodle. Kind of sad when some MNK busts out his LB combo...and it doesn't even break through Huton shield lol.
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    There's quite a few things I don't like about current skills in Frontlines.

    The samurai LB thing is one thing. If you can't know if they have LB ready, it's kind of like playing russian roulette everytime you are facing one. Do they have LB ready ? Are they about to pop Chiten ? If they do, will I insta die ? You just can't know.
    This is exactly what i hate too (about SAM). When i have to fight against one, i must use like 4 eyes.. and often it is not enough.. usually i attack him, just for him pop chiten half second AFTER my attack but i still get the debuff.. i know conterplays (i can use my shields to UP my life, or RUN) but it is annoying as hell and sometimes that bugs out too..
    If you see me on some maps (like on bases on Borderland), and defending a node against a SAM "apparently doing nothing", it is because that is the best way to oppose them the majority of the time.. no point in going 1VS1 when they can just trow their trump card, just for me NOT KNOWING if they can oneshot me in return at their pleasure.. i just refute the confrontation.
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    Xel Xelpht
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Playing team mode without teams is tuff.
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Ash Primordial
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    They balance themselves into hell, if they try to make arenamode skills work in frontline.
    They could make seperate traits/skillsets for each mode, but their PvP agenda is casual-orientated, so they wont add too much complexity to it.

    Something as simple as making heals cost 5k MP instead of only 2,5k in frontline and let sprint have a cooldown while in combat, would make it more PvP focused, as you don't have an easy way to escape.

    Paladin hallowed ground could be changed to shield with 150% of his maxHP when used, making it useless in frontline when ganged up upon, while keeping much of it's efficiency in the arena mode.
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    Xel Xelpht
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I wish I could make a pre-made to combat the teams with five bots that act like hunter-killer drones.
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