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    Petite's Avatar
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheElvenQueen View Post
    FF pvp feels like a phone game. Characters just iceskate sliding around
    I concur that it is really stiff. The game's slow as snails tickrate brings a ton of caveats like the movement weirdness, imprecise position-based AOE snapshots and abilities getting interrupted immediately after their animations have started.

    Unfortunately, you don't need fast servers for PVE content as much as you do for PVP. So these issues will likely remain forever.
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    Last edited by Petite; 07-26-2022 at 08:29 AM.

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    Sacro Light
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    Ravana
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    I concur that it is really stiff. The game's slow as snails tickrate brings a ton of caveats like the movement weirdness, imprecise position-based AOE snapshots and abilities getting interrupted immediately after their animations have started.

    Unfortunately, you don't need fast servers for PVE content as much as you do for PVP. So these issues will likely remain forever.
    Yeah it's actively awful. I can hit Chaotic cyclone on my warrior, die, then I see my damage happened, but I didn't get the healing from it. These things need to be instant.
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    Bender Rodriguez
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    People really take FL seriously? bro what? Get your 10 and go otherwise chase the EXP FL isn't even considered real PVP
    Some people, like myself are after mounts/achievements. So yes, some people do.
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Apeman View Post
    Some people, like myself are after mounts/achievements. So yes, some people do.
    Oh Im sorry I didnt know FL had such a competitive following
    please continue Im sure after the 10 wins its still worth everything after
    You must have develop stats and everything right?
    what tips do you got for me please I still need more win for my last mount
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Apeman View Post
    Some people, like myself are after mounts/achievements. So yes, some people do.
    I'm this TBH. I wanna get over the rewards and NEVER see the garbage that is FFXIV PVP again.
    Seriously the worst thing next to housing. And to think everything else in the game is stellar.
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    Xylira Mierqid
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm pretty convinced that whoever at SE is making balancing decisions for PVP either has no clue what they're doing, or simply isn't actually putting in anything close the time and effort that would be necessary to make sure things are properly balanced. It takes them ages to acknowledge let alone fix bugs, and anytime they do make balance changes it's always massive knee jerk changes that have sweeping effects.

    Frontlines is an absolute mess. Summoner spam used to be an issue, where as now they're practically useless with the damage/mitigation changes. Which of course now melee is way too tanky because of the mitigation changes, with the only way to reasonable kill anyone is to gank them and spam CC on them. Which the spam CC is another issue in of itself with how irritating it can be to get chain CCd with no way out of it, and there being absolutely no diminishing returns on CC. Paladin guardian cheese on capture points is still an issue that was finally acknowledged as a bug, but still nothing has actually been done about it months into the pvp revamp.

    And of course there's the underlying fundamental issue with the game itself having a horribly slow tick rate that cause all sorts of responsiveness issues where you can use an ability only for it to not register anywhere near quickly enough to have the effect it would if the game was more responsive.

    FF PVP is a mess.
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    MonteCristo's Avatar
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    Lamonte Cristo
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    I'm pretty convinced that whoever at SE is making balancing decisions for PVP either has no clue what they're doing, or simply isn't actually putting in anything close the time and effort that would be necessary to make sure things are properly balanced. It takes them ages to acknowledge let alone fix bugs, and anytime they do make balance changes it's always massive knee jerk changes that have sweeping effects.

    Frontlines is an absolute mess. Summoner spam used to be an issue, where as now they're practically useless with the damage/mitigation changes. Which of course now melee is way too tanky because of the mitigation changes, with the only way to reasonable kill anyone is to gank them and spam CC on them. Which the spam CC is another issue in of itself with how irritating it can be to get chain CCd with no way out of it, and there being absolutely no diminishing returns on CC. Paladin guardian cheese on capture points is still an issue that was finally acknowledged as a bug, but still nothing has actually been done about it months into the pvp revamp.

    And of course there's the underlying fundamental issue with the game itself having a horribly slow tick rate that cause all sorts of responsiveness issues where you can use an ability only for it to not register anywhere near quickly enough to have the effect it would if the game was more responsive.

    FF PVP is a mess.
    Full on agree but ive learned in these forums that any notion of improvement is met with swift white knights saying everything is perfect.
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    Death Is Only The Beginning....

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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    I'm pretty convinced that whoever at SE is making balancing decisions for PVP either has no clue what they're doing, or simply isn't actually putting in anything close the time and effort that would be necessary to make sure things are properly balanced. It takes them ages to acknowledge let alone fix bugs, and anytime they do make balance changes it's always massive knee jerk changes that have sweeping effects.

    Frontlines is an absolute mess. Summoner spam used to be an issue, where as now they're practically useless with the damage/mitigation changes. Which of course now melee is way too tanky because of the mitigation changes, with the only way to reasonable kill anyone is to gank them and spam CC on them. Which the spam CC is another issue in of itself with how irritating it can be to get chain CCd with no way out of it, and there being absolutely no diminishing returns on CC. Paladin guardian cheese on capture points is still an issue that was finally acknowledged as a bug, but still nothing has actually been done about it months into the pvp revamp.

    And of course there's the underlying fundamental issue with the game itself having a horribly slow tick rate that cause all sorts of responsiveness issues where you can use an ability only for it to not register anywhere near quickly enough to have the effect it would if the game was more responsive.

    FF PVP is a mess.
    I just got flamed to hell for this same outlook lol.

    Famitsu w/ yoshi - On CC, the devs plan to improve the Season ranking rewards since there was feedback that these have been underwhelming. There are also plans for an official tournament. The devs are currently fairly pleased with the job balance based on Season 2 data.
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    Death Is Only The Beginning....

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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    IDK how it's even remotely possible but it's now so much more shittier and garbagier than the last updates.
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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Staribbon Xu
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    Maduin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tsuchii View Post
    IDK how it's even remotely possible but it's now so much more shittier and garbagier than the last updates.
    Working as intended.
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