PvP is simply garbage

[Dreadz]

I don't how the PvP team managed to make something so awful from an already awful mode. I genuinely do not understand how a human being could playtest this and think that it's fine and release it to paying customers. Ignoring the the god awful job balance, terrible maps, garbage servers and the stupid way the mode handles vfx, the obnoxious amount of CC is just unbelievable.

Why would you dump so many garbage CC abilities into a fast-paced game mode filled to the brim with burst damage and only give players 1 charge of purify on a 30sec CD, along a resilience buff that barely works?
Did they just hire a bunch of random people who've never played FFXIV to designs this mode? Why would you take out Fetterward? Why would you not implement diminishing returns? What is wrong with these people, was this mode even playtested?
If I could make one request to the PvP team it would be this "Please play the game yourselves".

[AnnRam]

At least in FL NIN/RPR are almost unkilleable thanks to the latest Def buff. I have been stuck alone between 6 players hitting me as NIN(Max bh) with Huton and I could escape without burning all my healing left.

[Gserpent]

I don't how the PvP team managed to make something so awful from an already awful mode. I genuinely do not understand how a human being could playtest this and think that it's fine and release it to paying customers. Ignoring the the god awful job balance, terrible maps, garbage servers and the stupid way the mode handles vfx, the obnoxious amount of CC is just unbelievable.

Why would you dump so many garbage CC abilities into a fast-paced game mode filled to the brim with burst damage and only give players 1 charge of purify on a 30sec CD, along a resilience buff that barely works?
Did they just hire a bunch of random people who've never played FFXIV to designs this mode? Why would you take out Fetterward? Why would you not implement diminishing returns? What is wrong with these people, was this mode even playtested?
If I could make one request to the PvP team it would be this "Please play the game yourselves".

This is literally your first post and you came here to whine and rage like a child?

Please re-think your behavior.

[Lustre]

This is literally your first post and you came here to whine and rage like a child?

Please re-think your behavior.

I mean, they're not wrong. Pvp has an awful lot of problems. If half of this stuff (like broken jobs on release, cure 2 bug on whm, unkillable melee in Frontlines) happened in another mmo theyd hotfix it overnight. Instead the devs here just sit on their hands and watch us shout at each other about it.

[Sindele]

"It was not made to my exacting personal tastes" does not mean it was not playtested.

[Vatom]

People really take FL seriously? bro what? Get your 10 and go otherwise chase the EXP FL isn't even considered real PVP

[TheElvenQueen]

FF pvp feels like a phone game.
Characters just iceskate sliding around, sprint forever, stunlockspam...

Been doing a few over 10 days and the meta seems to be "hit and run", powerball it.
Spam self heals and spring, anti cc bubble, all joke skills. There's no weight or real feel to any of the fights. It's almost like some arcade space shooter.

Compared to 10 years of wow pvp: you could actually do stuff, you see what's going on, feel the combat flow, rotation, meaningful actions, everything was mostly *mwuah chefs kiss* - FF pvp is truely a bottom tier garbage joke. Just fly around, mash random buttons and go *weeeeeeee* It's actually kinda fun how stupid it is. Goes full 180, I'm starting to enjoy it.

But serious advice to the devs if you want to make it better:
Turn cc into debuffs. Every action applies a debuff that reduces targets movement speed, healing/spell power, by 3-5% and stacks up 3-5 times. Remove stuns and full frozen snares. Remove endless sprint spamming. Make healing flask instant, short cd for big FL, longer cd for small 5v5 match.

Oh another thing... did anyone get the memo? You know, good vs bad, red vs blue, two teams, 2 factions maybe? WTF is this hud garbage of 50 team squads in 10 different colors shapes and icons? Can you unify the teams and bring some clarity on the battlefield? Really shouldn't be that hard in 2022 with a $100 mill company to get the absolute BASICS right.

[Apeman]

People really take FL seriously? bro what? Get your 10 and go otherwise chase the EXP FL isn't even considered real PVP

Some people, like myself are after mounts/achievements. So yes, some people do.

[Sottiri]

This is literally your first post and you came here to whine and rage like a child?

Please re-think your behavior.

This is your 493rd post and you're still defending SE/PvP refusing to see how much worse it became.

Please re-think your behavior.

[Xylira]

I'm pretty convinced that whoever at SE is making balancing decisions for PVP either has no clue what they're doing, or simply isn't actually putting in anything close the time and effort that would be necessary to make sure things are properly balanced. It takes them ages to acknowledge let alone fix bugs, and anytime they do make balance changes it's always massive knee jerk changes that have sweeping effects.

Frontlines is an absolute mess. Summoner spam used to be an issue, where as now they're practically useless with the damage/mitigation changes. Which of course now melee is way too tanky because of the mitigation changes, with the only way to reasonable kill anyone is to gank them and spam CC on them. Which the spam CC is another issue in of itself with how irritating it can be to get chain CCd with no way out of it, and there being absolutely no diminishing returns on CC. Paladin guardian cheese on capture points is still an issue that was finally acknowledged as a bug, but still nothing has actually been done about it months into the pvp revamp.

And of course there's the underlying fundamental issue with the game itself having a horribly slow tick rate that cause all sorts of responsiveness issues where you can use an ability only for it to not register anywhere near quickly enough to have the effect it would if the game was more responsive.

FF PVP is a mess.