We Need to Start Expecting Mid-Level Sprouts to Play Better

[Striker44]

By the time that someone has hit mid-level they should be aware of how mitigation works in FFXIV so the excuse of "I thought I should be saving it for the boss' really isn't valid, as pointed out by OP, if someone uses a skip, the logical and considerate thing to do is take a new job into a lower level dungeon, and then a mid-level dungeon. Unfortunately someone with a skip might still get a surprise (e.g. Holminster) but that would help.

Expecting a tank to know how their mitigation works and when to use them really isn't unreasonable, no one is even asking for a perfect use- just some recognition that they can hit those buttons at all when they are likely most needed.

I'd disagree with sentiment. Unless you're wall-to-wall pulling at those early-to-mid levels (which if you're just learning how to tank, you're probably not), I can easily see someone noticing no need whatsoever to use their main mitigation abilities on single trash packs. The change happens precisely when you both: A.) Get to higher levels, and B.) Wall-to-wall pull. For developing tanks, that may not be happening period until they're at a higher level, and all it usually takes is an actual polite recommendation to go ahead and use some of those mitigation tools on the trash, because when we pull multiple packs you'll find that the trash actually does more damage than the bosses.

[IDontPetLalas]

I'd disagree with sentiment. Unless you're wall-to-wall pulling at those early-to-mid levels (which if you're just learning how to tank, you're probably not), I can easily see someone noticing no need whatsoever to use their main mitigation abilities on single trash packs. The change happens precisely when you both: A.) Get to higher levels, and B.) Wall-to-wall pull. For developing tanks, that may not be happening period until they're at a higher level, and all it usually takes is an actual polite recommendation to go ahead and use some of those mitigation tools on the trash, because when we pull multiple packs you'll find that the trash actually does more damage than the bosses.

I don't see exactly how your reply relates to what i wrote, not to what sentiment you are referring to, unless you mean that a mid-level pack never has the occasion to do more than pulling a single pack.

If depends upon how you define "mid-level"- but if someone is learning to tanking then they probably do start to w2w by SB , at least to try to do so. So it isn't too much to expect them to know what those core skills are. it's up to you if you see that as a "recommendation" or more or a reminder, just as a tank who may have forgotten to put on their stance.