We Need to Start Expecting Mid-Level Sprouts to Play Better

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Disappointing. A thread full of players bemoaning other players who may not meet their standards.
I can see why some felt the need to post threads like "I don't like the FFXIV's Community"
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...IV-s-community

However, whilst I'm not one to bemoan others for not meeting some abitary player-dictated standard (which SE themselves don't expect players to meet) I don't think I'm 'qualified' to comment since I'm the sort of player everyone here is passing judgement on: try as I might I'm just not very good at the game - I make silly mistakes too often, am slow to react to mechanics (which I don't always understand) and die more often than I should, and since have been playing for somewhere around eight months, always feel like I should be better. I do also make sure not to go anywhere near the increased difficulty content.

But I love the game all the same and the MSQ was the best gaming experience I've ever encountered. So should I just quit because I don't live up to this 'should be good by now' player-set standard? The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure that some will consider the answer to that question to be "yes".

There's a difference between (a) a learning player who puts effort to try & play better vs (b) player who clearly have played considerable amount of time but chooses not to pick up their slack. Both will most likely result in less than optimum scenario but their intent differs. OP mentioned the tank in question was in Ktisis & insists that they should suck it up and deal with their bad practices because nobody in the past had commented them for that. At that point it's not unreasonable to think: "What is this player had been doing for the past 86 levels of gameplay?". To put into perspective into your mained RDM job, that's like you getting into Ktisis but still fumbling over the Dualcast gimmick of your job that you unlocked from lv50. Or your past main BRD: not knowing what songs are.

Based on the personal thread you have made in the past, I do not think you qualifies as player (b). This thread isn't about you.

[Carin-Eri]

There's a difference between (a) a learning player who puts effort to try & play better vs (b) player who clearly have played considerable amount of time but chooses not to pick up their slack. Both will most likely result in less than optimum scenario but their intent differs. OP mentioned the tank in question was in Ktisis & insists that they should suck it up and deal with their bad practices because nobody in the past had commented them for that. At that point it's not unreasonable to think: "What is this player had been doing for the past 86 levels of gameplay?". To put into perspective into your mained RDM job, that's like you getting into Ktisis but still fumbling over the Dualcast gimmick of your job that you unlocked from lv50. Or your past main BRD: not knowing what songs are.

Based on the personal thread you have made in the past, I do not think you qualifies as player (b). This thread isn't about you.

Kind of you to say - feel a little better about this now

[MilkieTea]

Kind of you to say - feel a little better about this now

No yeah, to summarize a lot of players problems with these kinds of players even further: They're deliberately avoiding learning anything about their chosen class and forcing others to pick up the slack.

If you're trying, you're already better than 90% of players. Keep trying, you're doing great!