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    Been reading up on island sanctuary...

    Sounds like everything to do with this upcoming feature is entirely self-contained, having nothing at all tying it to the main game. From what I've read about the features, it sounds awfully time-consuming for stuff you can only see/do/use on the island itself.

    Edit: Another thought I just had...the existence of island sanctuary with the described features completely obliterates every single argument against the existence of instanced housing.
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    Last edited by Darthgummibear; 07-24-2022 at 04:21 AM.

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    It's a side activity for people who like Stardew Valley. Would not expect nothing more than that.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It's a side activity for people who like Stardew Valley. Would not expect nothing more than that.
    What I've seen so far honestly reminds me of the garrisons from WoW, and if that's all it is boy will people be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    What I've seen so far honestly reminds me of the garrisons from WoW, and if that's all it is boy will people be disappointed.
    Garrison did also have the unfortunate effect of being our "hub" that expansion leaving players feeling isolated.

    Had it not been isolated (outside of quests/events) and had the expansion not been reworked halfway through development and then abandoned, then the garrisons would probably not have gotten it's infamy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It's a side activity for people who like Stardew Valley. Would not expect nothing more than that.
    That's really the best hope to have about it, because i love farming/life simulators like Harvest moon, Rune Factory, Stardew, Story of Seasons, My Time At series.
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    Yeah that's why I don't bother with housing anymore. Content that doesn't have impact in the main game loop just wastes my time and energy.
    There are people who like the concept however.

    Personally I wish they made the main gameplay loop more interesting, instead of spending so much time making fluff watered down versions of content other games do better like farming and housing.
    Only side content that doesn't feel that way is Triple Triad. Probably because it wasn't invented by the XIV team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It's a side activity for people who like Stardew Valley. Would not expect nothing more than that.
    I like Stardew Valley. When I feel like it I just go play more Stardew Valley or real farmsims, since going by every side content in XIV, it will have 10% of the depth or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    Exactly? Why play this garbage ass game when we have games that are 10 miles ahead in everything?
    Uh ... shouldn't you try to answer your own question? I can give you mine: I play this game because I enjoy it. So why do you pay 15$ a month for a game you hate playing so much? What does that make you?


    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Personally I wish they made the main gameplay loop more interesting, instead of spending so much time making fluff watered down versions of content other games do better like farming and housing.
    It has been extremely clear for a long time now FF14 intend to be a theme park MMO, not a specialize MMO. Even stuffs I guess you consider the "main loop" like raid still have a fairly low amount of content comparing to games that focus on such. However that's kinda irrelevant. You can order a steak at a general dining, but the number of choice and quality probably will not match an actual steak house. But that doesn't mean there is some issue with the dinning, because steak is just one among a few dozens items that you can order. It doesn't make sense to fault a dinning for the fact it doesn't serve enough steak just because you only like steak, you should find a steakhouse if you want the menu to be 90% steak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    It has been extremely clear for a long time now FF14 intend to be a theme park MMO, not a specialize MMO. Even stuffs I guess you consider the "main loop" like raid still have a fairly low amount of content comparing to games that focus on such. However that's kinda irrelevant. You can order a steak at a general dining, but the number of choice and quality probably will not match an actual steak house. But that doesn't mean there is some issue with the dinning, because steak is just one among a few dozens items that you can order. It doesn't make sense to fault a dinning for the fact it doesn't serve enough steak just because you only like steak, you should find a steakhouse if you want the menu to be 90% steak.
    This^

    I would add the intentions have been clear even before it launched. Devs can't keep up with the demand for the main loop content, so they have to come up with other activities. The nice thing about XIV (for the devs AND the players) is there's very little waste. Older content tends to retain some value.
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    It was advertised as not affecting the main game at all before we knew any details at all. Should not have come as a surprise

    Still sounds like a harvest moon ranch as their solution to the instanced housing requests to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    It was advertised as not affecting the main game at all before we knew any details at all. Should not have come as a surprise

    Still sounds like a harvest moon ranch as their solution to the instanced housing requests to me
    Unless there's more in the way of customization other than choosing which buildings to use, I don't see people accepting it as a solution to instanced housing.
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