Glamour restrictions: a hinderance to creativity

[Siddiax]

While I understand the sentiment for certain sets, I'm generally glad that they have restrictions on glam. The last thing I want to see is casters walking around in heavy armor. It would look dumb.

But tanks wearing bikini is okay ? They should either uphold the restrictions or remove them.

[Ransu]

But tanks wearing bikini is okay ? They should either uphold the restrictions or remove them.

I'm not a fan of that either honestly.

[Silverbane]

But tanks wearing bikini is okay ?

Sure is. Characters who are nigh-invulnerable even naked are common in fiction.
Look at martial arts movies, for example, as well as anime, manga, comic books, and video games.

Spell casters wearing armor is less common, and was not allowed in many RPGs as far back as the original D&D.

[Skivvy]

Ok, so it seems we have people trying to claim bikinis have a right to exist as proper tank armor. Can't say I'm too surprised.

Now what about the chocobo/namazu/pig glams? :3

[Siddiax]

I'm not a fan of that either honestly.

Cool, but Square Enix clearly are.

Sure is. Characters who are nigh-invulnerable even naked are common in fiction.
Look at martial arts movies, for example, as well as anime, manga, comic books, and video games.

That's rather hypocritical. It's okay for someone to be "nigh-invulnerable" if naked, but a mage can't put on a heavier armor set ? Let's not forget about the fact that right now there's plenty of outfits that can make a healer and a tank look absolutely identical.

Spell casters wearing armor is less common, and was not allowed in many RPGs as far back as the original D&D.

So we should base everything on the original D&D from almost 50 years ago ? As far as I know, Mages in D&D couldn't wear a Frog or Chicken suit either. Also, armored casters exist in many fictional works, even more so in RPG games (i.e. Souls/Elder Scrolls/Divinity etc.)

Again, this is ignoring the fact that most armor sets don't even follow the rules they established early on in the game, where armor silhouttes would fit the roles they were made for.

[Bobby66]

Tbh I would be cool if they restricted gear to more classical norms tied to old school D&D.

[Silverbane]

So we should base everything on the original D&D from almost 50 years ago ?

Whether we should "base everything on the original D&D" or not, just about every RPG is.

The point is: near-naked combatants (including "tanks") is a norm in lots of fiction and gaming, as are role-restrictions on clothing/armor. The devs have chosen to conform with those norms, and I image much of the player base is accustomed to them.
There's nothing inconsistent or hypocritical about it.

Your argument that those norms make no sense seems based on real life, i.e.: you need armor to resist damage.
But there is no reason a game with magic and flying pigs in it needs to care about what works in "real life."

[Siddiax]

Tbh I would be cool if they restricted gear to more classical norms tied to old school D&D.

AF gear already does that. Unless you expect them to design a unique set for each job for each raid/dungeon ? I'm all for that but it's never going to happen.

The devs have chosen to conform with those norms, and I image much of the player base is accustomed to them.
There's nothing inconsistent or hypocritical about it.

They haven't chosen to conform with anything. Gear appearance has to be the most incosistent thing in the entire game. We wouldn't have such a high amount of cross-role gear/nigh-identical sets if they wanted to keep everything restricted. If they cannot uphold the rules they've set years ago, they should just remove them.

Your argument that those norms make no sense seems based on real life, i.e.: you need armor to resist damage.
But there is no reason a game with magic and flying pigs in it needs to care about what works in "real life."

Lmao this is hilarious.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I mistook it, in fact is the Fending set that is not from anything from Syrcus Tower and apparently is loosely themed after the boss of another raid.

Isn't it based on Phlegethon from Labyrinth of the Ancients? Whose model also appears as some of the trash mobs between Scylla and Glasya?

[Silverbane]

If they cannot uphold the rules they've set years ago, they should just remove them.

You're advocating, it seems, for a particular change in the rules: their elimination.
And now you claim that's the only change in the rules they "should" make.
That's complete nonsense.

It's never been "the original way or nothing" in this game, not for anything.
SE has the right -- yes, the right, as owners of this game -- to evolve it as it suits them, as they have been with every patch. That's true for every aspect of this game, including gear and glamour.