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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    *Go to Ul'dah*
    *use idle camera*
    *switch between every character in the area*

    OH MAH GAWD! THEY ARE IN THE GROUND AS WELL! /panic
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    Glandire Syvero
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I see tons on the new Raiden server. It's like a lalafell clone army.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    *Go to Ul'dah*
    *use idle camera*
    *switch between every character in the area*

    OH MAH GAWD! THEY ARE IN THE GROUND AS WELL! /panic
    We better run.
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I saw them flying in Central Thanalan a few years ago, without mounts!
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I feel like they could nix the teleport hackers by adding kill zones in out of the bounds areas they need to pass through and/or adjusting enemy AI so it resets if it's unable to execute its script properly due to its target being in the floor or in the air.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I feel like they could nix the teleport hackers by adding kill zones in out of the bounds areas they need to pass through and/or adjusting enemy AI so it resets if it's unable to execute its script properly due to its target being in the floor or in the air.
    Ill never understand why this isnt a thing, insta death and ban, done.
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    drtasteyummy's Avatar
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Ill never understand why this isnt a thing, insta death and ban, done.
    Because they are fine how it is, the truth is bots are a permanent problem no many how many resources you put into it, most notably when you have a free trial.
    They could add kill zones, what would it help? The botters would adjust, suddenly we have thousand of bots on the surface which just discourages players, particularly new players.
    If they really want it to stop they would have to spend a lot of resources because you can't win against botters, they have nothing to lose really, it means the only people
    that are valueable to ban are the buyers, however, the gold market is gigantic and you could say that at least 20-40% of any community buys gold. That means from a company
    perspective that you not only spend a huge amount of resources to detect these movements but also would have to ban a gigantic part of your community. Which is giga a
    money loss, or you could just look away as long as they do not show up for other players see WoW classic dungeon botting or underground farming and so on.

    It's not like SE can't fight it, they just don't want to. The "1000" bots or whatever they ban each week are just to scare people off and fill their hunting propaganda which is easly
    supported by the few bots you see on the surface, the reality is that these amounts are probably generated daily.
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 07-23-2022 at 07:10 AM.

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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Because they are fine how it is, the truth is bots are a permanent problem no many how many resources you put into it, most notably when you have a free trial.
    They could add kill zones, what would it help? The botters would adjust, suddenly we have thousand of bots on the surface which just discourages players, particularly new players.
    If they really want it to stop they would have to spend a lot of resources because you can't win against botters, they have nothing to lose really, it means the only people
    that are valueable to ban are the buyers, however, the gold market is gigantic and you could say that at least 20-40% of any community buys gold. That means from a company
    perspective that you not only spend a huge amount of resources to detect these movements but also would have to ban a gigantic part of your community. Which is gigantic
    money loss, or you could just look away as long as they do not show up for other players see WoW classic dungeon botting or underground farming and so on.
    you would be surprised how many would stop if it gets out there is a harsh penalty.

    that many people buy because there are zero repercussions. you announce it, you start it, and word gets around.... your 20-40% dries up real fast

    no one wants to lose their hard work. they wouldnt lose that many subscribers, thats just being alarmist. people arent that stupid, just that lazy....
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Two changes
    1. Rightclick report, on the bots THEMSEVLES, not just in chat, (both, and in the adventuers in zone list) that goes right to the special team.
    2. Increasing the special team to enough people to actually handle it. (40 people instead of 4)
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    The GMs will ban bots if they can find a valid loophole, like them causing obstruction of gameplay due to them interfering with quest progression.

    I feel like most of the problems just boil down to SE being so heavily reliant on the puny STF team when typical MMOs tend to have extensive enforcement teams dedicated to handling individual servers or clusters.
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Too many lala sacrifices were made, they now use forbidden magic to going beyond mortal limits to hide.
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