Summonner pet battle bugs drives me insane.

[Akamadoshi]

Date & Time: 22-7-27
Frequency: deep dungeon (it's not my main so i can only attest in deep dungeon)

Class/Level: 90 smn

Party or solo: Solo HOH
In-game time: 6:33 ?
Area and coordinates: boss floor 60 and above (do not have this issue on the lower level floors) + I have this issue from floor set 61+ and it gets REALLY bad starting 71+


So what happens is: you press for instance bahamut.......Great. Not great. You'd be lucky if it casts enkindled bahamut, if it is in YOUR camera sight, so when I am running away from the boss? Bahamut is not going to do what it is supposed to. Same goes to the other pets, I kite, they stick. They come back, and that's a common issue.
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That is to say I wish this was the issue so commonly known but no.
What IS not common however, is how my entire weaponskills are greyed out until Bahamot is on cooldown again. I hoped to write this level headed but after many reports and seems to be the only person who is bothered by this I plead somebody look into this. It is also very known pets randomly disengage from battle (all reports from deep dungeons, hoh especially) where they just go away and must be resummoned. I am forced to face-tank the boss, I thought. Because running around doesn't give me the ability to DPS and use pets (not even ruin III) then, but it seems like even when the pet is next to me, no matter which summon, it just greys out my entire weapon skills until the summon timer runs out. I am lucky if I can get out 2-3 of them... I have a small gif of it, this was the least bad case, but I am too tired to find better moment. It is wearing me out the frustration, so I apologize if this information is lacking, I hope somebody can test these or check with very high latency and ping and doing also HOH.



However, this could attribute heavily on ping too I play on 176 ping and on 260 ping and sometimes 290~365

That said, if this job is latency unfriendly then please look into it. I do not want to be forced to stop playing jobs I really am in love with. I want to cry.

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[Jeeqbit]

So the first problem is that the summon casts from the location you summoned it and by then you have kited the boss out of range?

I don't understand the second problem. Do you mean that the summon withdraws and the attacks are no longer imbued so that you can't instant cast Ruin III or use Astral Flow? I have had the pet disappear on SCH sometimes but I don't know what causes it to happen. I couldn't replicate it on SMN at level 90. My attacks remain usable whatever I do.

[Akamadoshi]

So the first problem is that the summon casts from the location you summoned it and by then you have kited the boss out of range?

I don't understand the second problem. Do you mean that the summon withdraws and the attacks are no longer imbued so that you can't instant cast Ruin III or use Astral Flow? I have had the pet disappear on SCH sometimes but I don't know what causes it to happen. I couldn't replicate it on SMN at level 90. My attacks remain usable whatever I do.

I try to explain, it is basically 1 problem, I will do my best. So initially I thought Bahamut bugs out casting enkindled when there is out-of-line or -sight kind of thing (bahamut's perception too) ......but in this case I am in a boss stage, no walls, nothing. When I kite and run away, I do my rotation normally. But then at random, I can no longer cast spellweapons it all greys out and then I lose the summon (I am facetanking the boss and the stupid carbuncle is just sniffing its bum, lol literally not doing anything!!!!) it does summon into ifrit.........or, Titan -- which ever primal I choose......but the weaponskills on my bar are greyed out. Sometmes it opens up and I can cast a skill, but then it greys out again........sometimes I cannot even summon ...........Now this never ever happened AFAIK in PVE content. I have this problem on HOH I notice mostly. When I say mostly.......it's not 'sometimes', It's every time 61+

if I am not clear on this still please keep asking !! I will do my best to explain, sorry for the english

[MilkieTea]

Edit: Saw the gif. Looks like a latency issue, might want to check your ping when that happens.

[Akamadoshi]

Wow.......I ran boss 70 and I died. Guess how? Using bahamut half the battle it greyed out all my bars to further summon any pets, without even using a single ability from bahamut other than enkindle.........because my greyed crossbar....bahamut simpy vanished........and I couldnt summon another pet. I was so in panic. I timed out because I literally could NOT DPS and this is not okay if this is latency issue.......I'm really upset........am I really unable to play summoner anymore?..........My ping is 250+ and sometimes 168-170+ I am high ping/latency player and never had this before........ this is just another level of blocking people from playing their favourite jobs. I WISH I was exaggerating. I WISH I was lying.......I really wish I was a troll but this is real and I am just now staring and not know what to do..........I refuse to move. I refuse to play "elsewhere" this game should be okay for everyone to play anywhere.......so I hope the solution won't be "just move"........kind of panicking right now ; help.

(OK that was a bit more melodramatic sounded than intended but it is how I feel!) Also thank you for the replies, I don't know what to do.

[Jeeqbit]

I don't think you are lying. I don't have a problem playing at that ping except that it's hard to press 2 abilities between the GCD. The ping might not be telling the whole story because there could be packet loss instead. You could check your send and receive by moving the cursor over the signal at the top. It's normal for it to increase when there is a lot of activity like moving or fighting but it shouldn't be too high.

[Akamadoshi]

I don't think you are lying. I don't have a problem playing at that ping except that it's hard to press 2 abilities between the GCD. The ping might not be telling the whole story because there could be packet loss instead. You could check your send and receive by moving the cursor over the signal at the top. It's normal for it to increase when there is a lot of activity like moving or fighting but it shouldn't be too high.

I played summoner in various content: most notably Aglaia, as mentioned; I never had this issue on PVE content. To specicy as mentioned (but so important to mention again because this is where it gets strange) it is ONLY happening in HOH (I do not think it is effecient to see if this is happening when you do in PT since it... is dead quick and you don't kite etc) so soloing it on HOH it happens.

Now, those with good ping etc........which we have many evidence on streams etc; carbuncle randomly just poofs mid-battle without any trigger. This happens so often it is common among us who solo ....the weird thing; it never happened to me. But sometimes I see carbuncle bug, then the whole thing happens. Then I wonder; is it ping related maybe that carbuncle WANT to withdraw from battle but is stuck since it is not supposed to, and thus my hotbars grey out for a while....repeatedly?
These are theories I crafted as possibilities.......but the way to test this is to truly run summoner, solo , HOH 70+ (from boss floor 70 onward, while I had not much issue 71-79, other than once this time -- last time was worse lol) I was completely forgotten about the bugs again. Went into 80........o boy......once boss reached 75% ish and below, things started!!! annnnd the rest went downhills from there ;