I don't like FFXIV's community

[Cojika]

I've been around for a while too. For me this game isn't toxic the same way other notoriously toxic communities like old wow(idk how it is now), LOL, or csgo were, but it just has really bad toxic positivity, and a whole lot of passive aggressive behavior. Also a lot of players are just .... weird for lack of a nicer word. Also, of course, all that with a dash of classic typical toxicity that you encounter here and there just like any other game.

I can't really click with a huge chunk of this community because I'm not aroused by animal genitalia nor am I into futa. I'm not into most anime, or into any "cutesy" stuff whatsoever. All that put together results in me playing solo most of the time, other than here and there where I catch a couple of friends online. As an introvert, I'm perfectly fine with this compromise.

Even though they weren't perfect by any means, I prefered the community of 1.0, ARR, and even wow. But hey those days are gone and I've long since accepted that and have fun my own way. I'm not going to quit one of my fav games just because I'm not a fan of hordes of ppl who showed up years after I started playing.

[Thi]

If you think this game is an openly toxic MMO, you have never played an actually toxic MMO like the many PvP F2P Korean MMOs.

I say openly because behind closed doors this game can be hella toxic though.

[Neoyoshi]

1. From the very start of 2.0 I've had people tell me to kill myself or that I should quit. One instance i remember is doing Amdapor Keep for the first time and we all wiped on the last boss cause the Tank rushed in and no one knew the mechanics. Told me directly I should quit and how horrible I was when I asked if we could try again. This was very common behavior in this time period.

2. Poor GMing. You'll have some people catching bans but them you take a look at Balmung shout chat and see people talking about animal genitalia, their mods that give their characters animal genetalia, you can see people in the shout chat talking about other fetishes nonstop all day and people who have done it for years which I won't name but just spend a few seconds there and you'll see some disgusting dialogue being spammed. Even in say chat.

3. People promoting their Discords 24/7 in party finders, shout chats. These same discords dictating content like Eureka nonstop. Making it hard to even get anything done since a Discord decides it wants to control BA and you're not allowed. You have people insta pulling everything so people miss out cause no one cares.

4. Hunts all the years of them getting instapulled and people missing out.

5. From Coils, to Alexander, to Omega, there and so on. Extremes as well and Savages. You'll find more and more unsavory people cursing at each other and they don't get banned. Telling people to quit the game.

6. You got people screaming at novices cause they don't know every mechanic before a fight in a basic 4 man leveling dungeon cause they are so tired of farming tomes they take it out on others.

I'm sorry but this community is not good in any sense of the word nor has it ever been no matter what anyone says.

And with that, I am done with this game. Been here since 1.0 but I'm ready to move on to something else like offline games.

To be fair, you are cherry-picking the negative encounters and experiences. Mind pointing out the positive ones as well?

Anyway, if you are really done with this game I suppose I won't see a direct response, so I hope you have a great time in whatever you do.

[Treesus]

Smells like a bait post. Every online game will have toxicity somewhere in the community, thats a simple fact. 14 is no different, but in comparison to alot of the other popular MMOs, its relatively tame. ESO, WoW, heck even less populated games like Neverwinter have 10x more toxic playerbases. If your looking for a cuddlefest where everyone is nice and pleasant, play a singleplayer game. But doing heavyhanded "game toxic and bad" post without even a slight comparison to market competition or mentioning any of the positive bits of the game kinda kills any hope of people thinking theres a drop of critical thought put into it past "am mad give attention".

[Kes13a]

Smells like a bait post. Every online game will have toxicity somewhere in the community, thats a simple fact. 14 is no different, but in comparison to alot of the other popular MMOs, its relatively tame. ESO, WoW, heck even less populated games like Neverwinter have 10x more toxic playerbases. If your looking for a cuddlefest where everyone is nice and pleasant, play a singleplayer game. But doing heavyhanded "game toxic and bad" post without even a slight comparison to market competition or mentioning any of the positive bits of the game kinda kills any hope of people thinking theres a drop of critical thought put into it past "am mad give attention".

especially on a 2 post, single job, level 7 character.

[Axxion]

especially on a 2 post, single job, level 7 character.

i mean they could had made the account back in 2011, never used it and is currently using alt.

[Kes13a]

i mean they could had made the account back in 2011, never used it and is currently using alt.

its practically a guarantee they did. but if so, and if they are indeed "leaving" why not post on a character that actually has done something? that way their assertation of years of abuse might actually appear bona fide

[Axxion]

its practically a guarantee they did. but if so, and if they are indeed "leaving" why not post on a character that actually has done something? that way their assertation of years of abuse might actually appear bona fide

do you not understand that some people are crazy? One reason that the op or any other would not do that is because of harassment. There are many people that do that. or going back to you point just want to troll. Heck there a few case that i seen in the forum post over some mods where one person got "harassed" (using this loosely) when someone went to there world and asked them "show me you tits "

Or another case where there was one person that wanted to stay anonymous on the forums where just trying give feedback on whm to help it out back when it needed. That person eventually caved in and linked there main to help prove their point because of course when someone knows what they are talking about they done be heard because folks just look at "oh you just lvl X

Or what about the most recent person when asking giving feedback on ninja and people go right to "oh you lvl 70 and you don't have no idea what you are talking about" but however they do and of people realize it some raiders make alts just to raid on.

do i loose my creditability on my alt then? since you know that im only a lvl 2

[Vyrerus]

1. From the very start of 2.0

Big problem with your list is that the playerbase for MMOs, particularly FFXIV, change drastically over time.


The players you were playing with in 1.0, for instance, were not the same players you were playing with in 2.0.

So it follows on down your list. You're listing troubling instances from all over the game's lifespan from distinctly different player bases.

Balmung didn't become the RP hotspot / lewd place till mid-late 2015, really. RPers flocked there once it became designated, and its entire player base changed. It doesn't get GM'd because people there are OK with what's going on, and those that aren't, aren't hanging out in Ul'dah.

Discord didn't exist until Mid May of 2015. Even then, it took some time before folks fully embraced it to the point of advertising Discord servers in game. People joining mid-late Stormblood(late 2017-2018) did that.

Slave morality take for what's supposed to be content that goes to the first person or group that hunts the monster. Honestly, the issue wouldn't be there if old style MMO claiming was a thing. More a design flaw with hunts, than a problem with the community.

If you've played MMOs as long as you claim, then you know before even sitting down to raid that a large segment of anything high end or endgame in an MMO attracts egotists. But a lot of those folks had their egos bruised by 2nd Coil or by Gordias Savage, so the raiding communities between Coil, Alexander, and all the other raid tiers have also changed drastically. The newer anyone is to a stressful thing like raiding, the more likely they are willing to insult others out of defense for their own ego. Again, less a problem with the community. More a problem with human nature at large. It comes from having to identify mistakes and correct them. People hate taking responsibility for any mistake, however small, so there will always be friction in events like this, regardless of what game is being played or how big the required group size is.

The only time I can think of when people yell at sprouts is when the sprout is doing something so grievously wrong multiple times, and refuses advice by insulting the giver(s). People come here from other games, where it's more or less expected you're going to be arguing/bickering throughout something like a dungeon. Generally when they learn that XIV's preference is silent running or loose jokes here or there, they fall in line and are good.

All in all, I think your assessment is wrong, and you should develop a better sense of humor. DBZ Abridged is hilarious, after all.

[AshaStardust]

I am right there with you. Worst experience I had in the game was last night in WoD of all places. I had been learning to tank, knew the mechanics and wanted to try my hand at a raid I knew. I grab Angar and pull him to the center facing north- you know, what every single raid does. The B tank provokes, and I provoke back. He does it again, and one his little friends pops in and types “Stop fighting aggro!” I made the mistake of questioning his magnanimity and get a barrage of insults “incompetent”, “troll”, “trying to ruin the raid” and so on and so forth. Maybe I should have just shut up and let it go, but I defended myself. So it went on for the rest of the run. I shot back, because why should anyone just take the abuse. But it was an instant decision made unilaterally by another alliance, no word about a mistake, no attempt to correct. Just a provoke and you’re done troll. That alliance needed up getting into a flame war with another guy in A, which was pretty funny but still, I just wanted to try my hand at main tanking and did what everyone else does. So, do you just get bullied and take it, or fight back and let 7 a-holes from Coeurl act like 6-year olds for the next 25 minutes? Yeah this was specific, and if one of the d***bags from Coeurl sees this, you’re a bunch of tools. But this is a thread about the game community, and if I try to MT again who’s to say the same thing won’t happen again? Sure sounds like fun