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  1. #21
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    A lot of people have the mindset "Must get to endgame ASAP, go go go skip all the cutscenes never do any optional content ever go go go go go"

    ... I wonder why this is the MMO they chose.
    Nobody said anything about skipping cutscenes, getting to endgame asap and never do optional content though?
    The OP simply used their functioning brain and some common sense while doing the MSQ and noticed "Oh, look. I'm way overleveled by using one class, maybe I should just level two classes at the same time?". "Efficiency" may be a really evil word for some people but you can enjoy things while being efficient at them.

    And even if someone skipped all cutscenes and never does optional side content: what's it to you? Your enjoyment doesn't suddenly disappear because someone else enjoys things differently. Makes me wonder why go through the hassle of coming into the thread that wasn't about this at all.
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  2. #22
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilimDragonava View Post
    So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

    With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

    Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.
    I say if you are having fun keep doing it your way. I personally do exactly what you do when I level up a new alt. I don't like to waste xp.
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  3. #23
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    Glandire Syvero
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilimDragonava View Post
    So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

    With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

    Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.
    I lvled up two classes from 80 to 90 with EW msq and sidequests alone. If I didn't switch there would be a lot of exp going simply to waste as you literally can not get more when hitting 90. So if you want to make the most of the msq exp you definitely need to shuffle classes.
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  4. #24
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Specifically regarding approaching level 90, on my first run I had *just* hit level 89 when I started the level 89 dungeon+quests (having come up a tiny bit short and done sidequests to get over the line) and that was a perfect amount of EXP to hit 90 as I completed the last 89 quest. Since then they have announced that EXP from level 80-90 dungeons has been increased, so at some point you'll need to have a second level 89 job to switch over to for perfect use of quest EXP as you approach the level cap.
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  5. #25
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    It depends on a lot of factors. If you just do MSQ, you will get just enough experience for one job, maybe slightly less than you need because some levels used to expect fates and sidequests to be done. SE has tried to remove those requirements but they might still be needed for some levels.

    If you do sidequests in the latest expansion areas, you will get enough experience to level multiple jobs because this was the first MSQ designed to not require sidequests in the first place.

    If you have a lot of experience buffs, such as your FC "Heat of Battle" buff, food, rings and earrings from certain locations, you might get enough experience from dungeons to outlevel the MSQ. If you do roulettes every single day, you will definitely outlevel the MSQ. If you have the Preferred World bonus "Road to 80" buff, it will double quest experience which will keep you, on average, twice the level of the MSQ or higher.

    I know you don't want to be told "play your way", but switching class all the time is annoying and causes mental fatigue. It's easier to just do the MSQ on your main class even if you get to max level and don't receive anymore experience, because getting experience is easy in this game and it's increased for alt classes.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  6. #26
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Specifically regarding approaching level 90, on my first run I had *just* hit level 89 when I started the level 89 dungeon+quests (having come up a tiny bit short and done sidequests to get over the line) and that was a perfect amount of EXP to hit 90 as I completed the last 89 quest. Since then they have announced that EXP from level 80-90 dungeons has been increased, so at some point you'll need to have a second level 89 job to switch over to for perfect use of quest EXP as you approach the level cap.
    That really depends on how you play. Back in December, I hit lvl 90 not even midway through EW on my main doing daily roulettes with FC buff and food (I always carry dirt cheap raisins for xp). I could have easily leveled 3 classes back then.
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  7. #27
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    That really depends on how you play. Back in December, I hit lvl 90 not even midway through EW on my main doing daily roulettes with FC buff and food (I always carry dirt cheap raisins for xp). I could have easily leveled 3 classes back then.
    Yes, I'm talking about the bare minimum EXP gain from playing the MSQ and nothing else at that point. So that minimum will put you up a full level (presumably more than a full level now) and you are almost guaranteed to need a second job at 89 to soak up some EXP because even if you carefully avoid hitting 89 early, you'll still be 90 before you reach the level 90 quests.

    That said, the reason I didn't quite get to 89 in time for the quests going up to 89 was that I was diverting some EXP to other jobs along the way.
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  8. #28
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    Cach's Avatar
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    Cach Mandrake
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilimDragonava View Post
    So I’m currently leveling 3 classes, I’ve been rotating through all them as I do the MSQ. I was doing this because my first class got to level 40 before the MSQ even hit level 20. Now I’m on the level 30 MSQ and I have 2 classes at level 35, and one class at level 45.

    With that said, people in my FC keep saying I should just level one class, is that right? I’m asking because if I did that i would get my first class to max level while the MSQ is still far from finished, but then I won’t have other classes leveled up high enough to even continue the MSQ. I would have to do run dungeons endlessly just to level up my second/third classes to get them high enough level to meet the MSQ required level.

    Please don’t reply with “Play it your way”, my way of playing is efficiently, I find efficiency fun and interesting. Playing without a plan in place makes me nervous and takes away the fun.
    If you want efficient, you might want to consider finishing at least ARR, and unlock all possible roulettes plus the first tomestone vendor. You don't want all that potential xp and equipment to go to waste.
    Back in ARR, I leveled every single class to 30 (which was the limit for free to play on those days) before actually subscribing.
    Xp multipliers were less plentiful, that meant levequests, fates and hunts to supplement during longer queues.
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  9. #29
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    Rael Svalnes
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Depending on when you pick up the third job, you could easily get three to 90. I leveled dragoon and reaper to 90 and still had tons of content left for a third, but reaper is a level 70 job, so it eats up less exp than something you'd level from 1. I hit 90 on two jobs before Endwalker even started and I was going pretty fast through it. I've still only been playing a few months. I think some people that have been playing a long time and never leveled a character up through all the expansions from the start don't really realize how much experience you get doing the entire story, honestly.

    I think there's also an attitude that you just need to get everything unlocked as soon as possible because it makes a lot of the game easier when you have all the maps and can fly everywhere, plus more duties, etc, unlocked. I definitely don't think you need to skip cutscenes and stuff to get there a matter of hours earlier, but they're not wrong that shirking the main story is going to make you miss out on a lot if you're taking ages to get through it. You'll end up not being able to join your friends on treasure hunts, instances, etc, because your content is still locked. I think the idea is that focusing on one character would push you through faster, but that's not necessarily true. You could go through just as fast on multiple and not end up just flushing exp down the drain as long as you're not spending days grinding to keep up tons of side jobs.

    Basically, it probably isn't efficient to try to level 4+ jobs because you'll need to put off doing story to keep them all on pace, but it's probably more efficient to level around 3 (possibly one you pick up at 60+ -- Dancer, Gunbreaker, Sage, Reaper) so that you don't hit 90 on everything with nothing left at endwalker level to pick up the experience.
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