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  1. #11
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    The entire ward system is one of the primary reasons I have virtually zero interest in housing beyond my apartment and FC room. If I devoted that much time and resources into something that would disappear if I had to take a break from the game for life reasons, I would uninstall and never look back.
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  2. #12
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Arch Idealist
    World
    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    If I had to take a break from the game for life reasons, I would uninstall and never look back.
    That's what I tought after losing my first house to demolition. Since then had several houses. It's not such big deal, there are always additional houses available, and you can make some new design. The lottery made the system more annoying, but as long as servers are being added it's still somewhat easy to get a house with bit of patience.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

  3. #13
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    That's what I tought after losing my first house to demolition. Since then had several houses. It's not such big deal, there are always additional houses available, and you can make some new design. The lottery made the system more annoying, but as long as servers are being added it's still somewhat easy to get a house with bit of patience.
    The whole process is too time-sensitive and convoluted, especially on my server. I couldn't even get an apartment until someone from my FC switched servers.
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  4. #14
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Shell FCs made on day one won't even be 30 days old by the end of the first raffle. Besides, if you were planning to move an actual FC, nothing was stopping you making alts to get the FC started.
    So OP doesnt know how to count? shocking..
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    Choose your Destiny:
    Pressure SE into fixing their gifting system and RMT issues
    >Defend the company
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    *the GCBTW presses the enter key*

  5. #15
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    foreverh0pe's Avatar
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    Alyth Faith
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd like to think I'm not that dense.... it was never about the first raffle, it's about FC's created on those worlds after transferring won't be able to participate in the next one either, however FC's created when the world's were first introduced- will. Meaning those who waited to transfer and not start new characters, are disadvantaged.
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  6. #16
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Lesson: Plan ahead

    I (don't) look forward to seeing this again in August.
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  7. #17
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Lesson: Plan ahead

    I (don't) look forward to seeing this again in August.
    August will be both more and less painful.

    It's highly unlikely that we'll have the home world transfer delay active so players should be able to get to the new NA worlds that first week to immediately set up their FCs.

    It's also extremely likely that RMT and the workshop farms will be setting up from day one now that they know how quickly SE might open housing.
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  8. #18
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    Dagget's Avatar
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    Dag Alvane
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    Seraph
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    Bard Lv 100
    ATM, there are 432 FC's on Raiden, and a lot of them got made in the past few days or otherwise not qualify for the 1st cycle of the FC lottery. 269 have recruitment closed and less than 10 members (the bot FC's will be part of that group). With 360 Large plots available the 1st time FC plots can be bought, I suspect that every FC made in time for the 1st FC lottery cycle will be able to get a mansion. I also suspect this is exactly why SE started the lottery so soon, it caught the bots off guard as much as anyone and they won't have gotten near enough shell FC;s made in time to grab a lot of plots.
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  9. #19
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Aren't most fc's shell fc's atm?
    I have several fc's on my ward with exactly 4 people.
    Its the same on other wards on my server
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  10. #20
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Aren't most fc's shell fc's atm?
    I have several fc's on my ward with exactly 4 people.
    Its the same on other wards on my server
    No not really. Free Companies are flawed in design. At least when it comes to the housing aspect of it.
    Everything in this game can be done with a dedicated 4 man team + one other 4 man team (savage raiding takes 8 but dungeons take 4). Everything else can be done via a larger group in Linkshell/pf/pug context.
    But FC housing, aside from personal expression with decor and a place to gather, offer a lot of casual content that tbh, the larger your FC, the LESS likely you are as an individual to ever get to interact, use or personally benefit from it. Most Large FC's don't let members willy nilly send out their subs/airships use the gardens, decorate etc.

    The actual design of the game encourages you to build your small pack of friends, that you do most of your day to day stuff with. And then reach out, and group up with others as needed. So really, I'm impressed there are as many big FC's as their are. Because logicically, it makes the most sense to have a FC dedicated to your static/team. (so 2-4-8 ish player fc's per game design, should be the norm).

    GAME DESIGN though is the reason for 99% of all this.
    -small group design
    -limited quantity design
    -special features only available in said version of design.

    Perhaps if personal houses could have airships and be shared *like actually shared ownership passed* among friends, there would be less sub 10 member fc's. But, again game design leads to players doing this.

    I do not deny that resellers and bots and the like aren't problematic too...but there are far more people who just want a husband/wife fc or small static fc or me and my gaming bros fc. Because *that* is the community they wish to build with.

    I think SE should have waited to open FC housing until 30 days from day world transfers opened. But that is me. Opening personal housing right away was fine. Probably even good from a demand perspective/server growth perspective. But by NOT holding fc purchases until world transfers have a chance, it also imo, actively is discouraging fc's from making the transfer. And if fc's as a whole won't transfer, it will be harder to balance world populations.
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