Shout Chat Cafes

[game_enjoyer]

I've been playing for a few years now and one thing that has been a constant is the shout chat cafes that are advertised in city hubs, Limsa most notably. I've always wondered though: what's the appeal? The game doesn't really seem set to enable bars or night clubs without an extra helping of imagination (though, to be fair, that does seem to be the general vibe of roleplaying). But why FF14 and not like, VRChat? What does FF14 provide that makes this form of engagement worthwhile? No offense intended of course, don't want to give the wrong impression.

[Setesh45]

But why FF14 and not like, VRChat? What does FF14 provide that makes this form of engagement worthwhile?

It's because of the mods, the mods change the game into a NSFW activity simulator, from NSFW clothes, nudity, new animations to completely different body models.
The client has no protection built in, hence nobody knows you're using the mods unless you go around sending screenshots and publicly stating it in the chat.

Using them is of course against the ToS!

[game_enjoyer]

Ah, I guess I didn't even think of mods. I've been playing vanilla since I started. Well, I guess this didn't need a thread.

[Wanzzo]

in a way, your thread is kinda relevant. We are having some recent threads about ERP, chats about it and we had some about ToS violations with mods and others related recently.

The first impression I had while reading your thread was: "oh, so this all stuff seems to be increased and maybe they will adress it against people that likes ERP or "true RP".

The more threads like this, the more evident the ERP problem is becoming...

[TsuchinokoPanda]

Not every cafe is NSFW (though it's probably the majority). From personal experience, a lot of people enjoy RPing their character and like having special made spaces to playing said character. People can usually 'work' for cafes too, making gil for playing their part, so there's some extra motivation too. I have an FC mate that makes an insane amount of gil just serving people food at a tavern and having chats with the customers like a real waitress. Paid by the owner + tips. Just another form of entertainment, really.

[Wanzzo]

Not every cafe is NSFW (though it's probably the majority). From personal experience, a lot of people enjoy RPing their character and like having special made spaces to playing said character. People can usually 'work' for cafes too, making gil for playing their part, so there's some extra motivation too. I have an FC mate that makes an insane amount of gil just serving people food at a tavern and having chats with the customers like a real waitress. Paid by the owner + tips. Just another form of entertainment, really.

I LOVE this kind of true RP
And I HATE ERP so much...

My concern is: as ERP increases and becomes more evident, less people will be willing to do true RP and less people will think this is a good way to play the game 'cause it's easy to misunderstand the difference between them. So, as ERP grows, the true RP shrinks... and this is very sad.

A good thing about true RP is: you don't need any mod to do it Just to learn some /emote tricks will do
Fortunately, we still have a lot of people doing it. And yes, it's a good way to get some gil

[Setesh45]

I LOVE this kind of true RP
And I HATE ERP so much...

My concern is: as ERP increases and becomes more evident, less people will be willing to do true RP and less people will think this is a good way to play the game 'cause it's easy to misunderstand the difference between them. So, as ERP grows, the true RP shrinks... and this is very sad.

A good thing about true RP is: you don't need any mod to do it Just to learn some /emote tricks will do
Fortunatedly, we still have a lot of people doing it. And yes, it's a good way to get some gil

I love normal RP too, but FFXIV now has so much infamy in the ERP section that I don't engage any roleplayers anymore... I find myself embarrassed telling anyone I play the game nowadays because of the connection to ERP, and as someone playing the game since launch I remember being very proud to play the game because the community used to be predominantly so wholesome back in the day.

[SturmChurro]

I need to start frequenting these clubs and cafes, maybe I could make some gil. I afk all day anyway.

[Wanzzo]

I love normal RP too, but FFXIV now has so much infamy in the ERP section that I don't engage any roleplayers anymore... I find myself embarrassed telling anyone I play the game nowadays because of the connection to ERP, and as someone playing the game since launch I remember being very proud to play the game because the community used to be predominantly so wholesome back in the day.

I was about to say the same...
I made a char in Balmung after waiting for early hours in the morning for a window in the character creation restriction. Back then, Balmung was the capital of true RP and I was very proud of being isnde there xD I went inside a roleplay FC and learned a lot from them (even things about the lore of the game, like places and some historical characters. I REALLY loved to play like this).

But now it's this degenerated and sexual stuff... I feel embarrassed for that as well. Even now, if I ask to enter a "RP FC" I can't thrust that all members there are looking for real RP or just the redtube's eorzean extension... It's really sad.

I'm about to move my alts to one of the new servers in EU DC. I hope i can create some true RP events inside a FC there (small and true RP events for the FC members only and only if ALL of them mind the difference and aren't looking for pervert content).

[Bunnycake]

Not every cafe is NSFW (though it's probably the majority). From personal experience, a lot of people enjoy RPing their character and like having special made spaces to playing said character. People can usually 'work' for cafes too, making gil for playing their part, so there's some extra motivation too. I have an FC mate that makes an insane amount of gil just serving people food at a tavern and having chats with the customers like a real waitress. Paid by the owner + tips. Just another form of entertainment, really.

I have yet to come across a NSFW cafe but yeah it is relaxing to see your WoL relaxing after all the crap they went through. One of my lala alts used to help around a friend's cafe.